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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah man I'm sure Winston Churchill, the drunken failure who lost his own easiest possible post WW2 election to Clement Attlee, is totally not blaming his loss to the voters and not his failure to run a proper public campaign.

Harris was a good candidate

Which is why she willingly chose to ignore millions of constituent demands, and banned an entire Democratic party ethnic base from partaking in the DNC because "fuck you, kiss Israel's ass lol".

And that defnitley didn't backfire at all because voters love being told to eat shit and vote for the lesser evil, especially after not being able to participate in a primary where a candidate people actually wanted could at least be voted on.

spoilerSeriously the actual stupidity to run a Churchill quote in response to voter demands is astounding, especailly because he got shrekt in 1945.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The bottom line is America isn't going to jeopardize their allegiance with Israel. They're our most important ally in the Middle East.

So what you're really saying is you would have preferred if Democrats lied like Republicans and said during the election that they would put their foot down regarding Israel, only to take that back once elected.

And honestly, I would agree with you. So many dumbasses in this country chose to vote 3rd party or not vote because of the whole Israel/Palestine thing that now a felon rapist traitor who shits on our Constitution and tanks our economy is president. So yeah, I kinda wish Democrats just pulled a Republican move and blatantly lied about their intentions during the election and then walked it all back after winning.

Single issue voters/abstainers make me nauseous. Especially when so much is on the line.

And now we're learning the hard way.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

The bottom line is America isn’t going to jeopardize their allegiance with Israel. They’re our most important ally in the Middle East.

Liberals will never, for an instant, ask themselves why Israel is such an important ally - not even when confronted with a choice between standing behind them literally committing a genocide and allowing a felon rapist take office.

'We can't abandon our ally' is the most lazy lie the state department has ever successfully sold their citizens completely unchallenged right next to 'we're looking for WMD's'

[–] piefood@feddit.online 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Democrats do lie about their intentions all the time. I saw Biden and Obama's campaigns, and presidencies.

Harris was actually one of the most honest campaigns that the Democrats have run

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So basically, whether Democrats lie or not, they lose because they're held to a different standard and a felon rapist gets to sink our nation.

Man, what a stupid country.

[–] piefood@feddit.online 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, I think they're held to a pretty similar standard. They just did a worse job than Trump did when it came to acknowledging how shitty life has become for Americans.

The Republicans ran on "Everything is fucked. Fascism, genocide and racism are going to fix it."

The Democrats ran on "Everything is great! But we're gonna do genocide and draconian border policies more than they are."

If the voting-base you are trying to win over is angry about how things are going, and you offer them a solution, they'll likely vote for you. But if your voter-base is angry about how things are going, and you fight against what they want, then you probably aren't gonna get many votes.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Nah, I think they’re held to a pretty similar standard.

There aren't enough LOLs in the universe for me to respond to this. Like, this is one of the silliest comments I've ever read. If you honestly believe that both parties are held to similar standards, you are either super young and haven't been around long enough to know better, or you just REALLY don't pay attention. IMAGINE a Democrat president doing a FRACTION of what Trump has done, even just in the last 3 months. Not to mention the last presidency. Just IMAGINE it. IMAGINE Democrats in Congress saying things like what Marjorie Taylor Greene has said. They'd be fucking GONE. To say that both parties are held to a similar standard requires a level of ignorance I simply cannot fathom.

If the voting-base you are trying to win over is angry about how things are going, and you offer them a solution, they’ll likely vote for you.

How far back does your memory go? Donald Trump said he had "concepts of plans" which is him openly stating he doesn't have a fucking plan. Meanwhile, Harris ended up laying out her economic plan. So only one candidate had a fucking plan, and Americans chose to vote for the one that didn't. They also chose to vote for a FELON RAPIST instead of a literal fucking prosecutor with a doctorate in law.

STUPID. COUNTRY.