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Full title: Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version "to access a decade-old, discontinued video game"

Ubisoft's lawyers have responded to a class action lawsuit over the shutdown of The Crew, arguing that it was always clear that you didn't own the game and calling for a dismissal of the case outright.

The class action was filed in November 2024, and Ubisoft's response came in February 2025, though it's only come to the public's attention now courtesy of Polygon. The full response from Ubisoft attorney Steven A. Marenberg picks apart the claims of plaintiffs Matthew Cassell and Alan Liu piece by piece, but the most common refrain is that The Crew's box made clear both that the game required an internet connection and that Ubisoft retained the right to revoke access "to one or more specific online features" with a 30-day notice at its own discretion.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I am 100% serious, I don't see the contradiction in this.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's a license to play the game, so when you pirate it is like sneaking into the movie theater. There's no additional cost to the producer, but theoretically a loss of revenue from the license (movie ticket) you didn't buy.

All that ignores the fact that they sure do pretend they are SELLING the game when it's convenient.

[–] TwoSteps@programming.dev 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree with this point, and it's also why I think the class action suit makes sense. Some of the people who bought The Crew got a physical copy, which is now just a useless disc. It's still just a license like you said, and I agree that it feels like they're selling the game.

It's like if the movie theater sold a DVD for a movie, but the disc will only work while you're in the theatre. Pirating might still be a crime legally but I don't think anyone should feel bad about doing it here, Ubisoft absolutely does not deserve your money over slimy business practices like this.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Agree top to bottom.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think a better comparison would be a "Drive-In Theater", because with pirating you're just seeing the film, not using their seats/venue (servers) so it's like you're sitting in the neighbors yard watching it from their porch. Still costing them what would be considered a "viewing purchase" for the data but you're really not putting a strain on the theater itself by "attending or sneaking in".

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean you're still using the Drive-In's gravel and taking up space, but I see what you mean.

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

...you're using the drive-in's gravel and space from the neighbor's yard?

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Ah I missed that. Thanks.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

the fact is, that most people who pirate, wouldn't pay for it if they couldn't pirate. It's not a loss of revenue in most cases. I sure as shit wouldn't pay for media if i couldn't pirate. I'm poor as fuck.