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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

pedal to the metal on the content and information theft, folks:

a photo taken on a huge banner advert on a building titled Bayfront Park. the ad reads "STOP HIRING HUMANS", with a tagline of "The Era Of AI Employees Is Here". the advert is from a company named artisan

seems it's this lot. despite their name, there appears to be almost nothing artful or artistic about them - it's all b2b shit for Selling Better

[–] veganes_hack@feddit.org 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

somebody had to do the design + layout for that banner. i wonder what was going through their head then.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago

Wonder if the sinister look was demanded by the clients or the person doing the design.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 11 points 5 days ago

"God I wish I was an AI so i didn't have to do this"

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 4 days ago

"I should start the Butlerian Jihad"

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Incorporating into your workflow a company that is a shell around other companies that are selling their products at a loss with no path to profitability seems like quite an unacceptable business risk to me. But I dont get paid the big bux

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

as long as you can mark it up and as long as the charade lasts, and as long as there's someone willing to pay, this will make money. when spicy autocomplete provider collapses just pack your bags and leave

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 7 points 4 days ago

@fullsquare @Soyweiser "I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook, and by gum, it put them on the map!"

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I think when you have integrated all this into your workflows doing that and going back might be hard esp on the enterprise level.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For the enterprise using it, yes. For the enterprise selling it, probably not so much.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 4 points 4 days ago

oh but that's not my problem, and those who got in that very stupid position deserve every last bit of it

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

wait, what do you mean "integrating it into workflows". this juicero of outsourcing won't work as advertised and it's probably cheaper and less prone to fucking up to hire a couple of southeastern asians or eastern europeans. as long as business is selling of these juiceros, they'll be fine as long as they can find suckers. these suckers, tho, might be in trouble even before openai goes under for unrelated reasons

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It has some usage if your don't care about quality or consistency. See the vibe coders. Firing most of your team because a lot of unimportant stuff can be vibe coded (and your customers are locked in and nobody in management knows what a Trust Thermocline is), and then suddenly openAi drives up prices, causing the secondary company to go poof or also raise prices. And suddenly you are left with a garguantuan mess that you can no longer properly afford. A technical debt accelerant. I mean people are using this shit, even if we know it is shit (and they might also knwo it but it is forced from above).

Of course if you believe in markets these badly run companies will go under invisible hand etc etc.