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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

a journalist wants to ask me about Urbit. Should I install Urbit so I can at least say I've tried it and can speak authoritatively?

[ ] no
[ ] hell no
[ ] jesus h. christ no why

i just had a 1.5 hour half-hour chat with another journalist about the Fucking Rationalists

i have a call with a third one scheduled for tomorrow

i have followed these fucks for 15 years in detail and i still don't know how to properly explain them to our lovely pivot-to-ai readers

at least it'll be these suckers' job to do the explaining while i rant

fuck. it's rationalist season

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

We need something like Bare-faced Messiah, but with fedoras. People will stick with a bizzare, complex story with lots of moving parts as long as it's told well.

[–] cstross@wandering.shop 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

@dgerard @BlueMonday1984 I've been following them for 35 years—hell, I hung out with Curtis Yarvin on usenet in the early 90s, visited him and fondled his lizard once in '93—and the only way I can explain them is that they're larping a bad post-cyberpunk novel and aren't entirely clear on the whole concept of "fiction".

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

fondled his lizard

I'm choosing to interpret that in the most euphemistically way possible

[–] cstross@wandering.shop 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

@gerikson I mean, I *literally* fondled his lizard: it was about two feet long, green, and quite bad-tempered. (He and his student house had a room full of iguanas and snakes and suchlike. And a kitchen fridge door full of designer phenylethylamine hallucinogens. Or at least test tubes with labels identifying them as such. It was an eye-opening experience …

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 3 points 6 hours ago

Sheesh. Everyone knows you keep the phenethylamines inside the fridge proper, not on the door, where the temperature is less stable. (Source: the Shulgins' Kitchen Procedures I Have Known And Loved.)

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

"i have followed these fucks for 15 years in detail and i still don’t know how to properly explain them to our lovely pivot-to-ai readers"

Personally, focusing on their whacko beliefs around the Impending AI Apocalypse^tm^ seems like a good place to start.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 9 hours ago

"Yudkowsky sincerely believes the following. You'll recognise it because Altman uses it as marketing buzzwords."