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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Europe is definitely more resilient in protecting democracy as they have countries using proportional representation.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but we're not immune. Populism is heavily represented in almost every country.

[–] Snoopy@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well sadly not France. Boloré hold medias and is converting people to far right. The fifth republic in france has problem and lack democracy... :(

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

France uses the second-round system.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

For presidential elections, yes. For other elections it is proportional. They should use ranked choice for presidential elections but that's not going to happen in the 5th republic. It'll need another revolution or constitutional change to fix their system.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago

They should definitely use the single transferable vote for presidential elections.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's certainly nice, but it's mostly irrelevant in the long run without a more serious remedy to the issues the far right uses to gain legitimacy.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I beg to differ. Countries that use pr have much higher voter turnout and perform better on every issue thus reducing the chances of the people feeling frustrated and voting in fascists in hope of change.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's definitely true, but then again AfD got the highest number of seats in Germany's last election for example. PR is nice but not much more than a bandaid if your politicians are crooks, which let's face it they are.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 23 hours ago

Oh yeah you're right.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

People in Germany need to vote for better parties and the centre and left parties need to make better decisions when in power, however that is not the fault of pr. It is one of many important reforms democracies need to make. One reason why the AfD has gotten so far is because of the Germans’ reliance on Twitter with Elon Musk manipulating the platform to give AfD artificial public support in the election thus reinforcing the band wagon effect.

At least in Germany you can see how much popular support the AfD have instead of them lurking behind the 2 big parties and that’s great transparency to have in democracy. Also the people have more viable choices on the ballot instead of just having 2 choices.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

People in Germany need to vote for better parties and the centre and left parties need to make better decisions when in power, however that is not the fault of pr

I'm not saying it's the fault of PR, but rather that a good voting system alone will not stop fascism. As you said non-right parties need to make better decisions when in power, but also the people themselves need to be more civically engaged outside of elections.