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In perhaps his most disappointing policy announcement thus far, Carney has indicated he will scrap the Liberal's plan to increase the capital gains inclusion rate. This mildly progressive measure was directed squarely at the passive incomes of the wealthiest sliver of Canadians and would have served as a healthy revenue generator. Instead, it's destined for the scrapheap.

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's kinda a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If you follow the ABC (anything but conservative) "strategic" crowd, then you slowly push Canada towards a two party system. If you vote for someone who actually represents your political views, then you potentially help get PP elected.

This is why proportional representation is so important, and why I single-issue voted for Trudeau, as he promised to fix what is in my opinion the biggest problem with our current political system. The Liberals proved they can't be trusted to properly follow through on their promises, so I can't, in good conscience, give them my vote again until they prove themselves trustworthy.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 13 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The move towards a two-party system is inevitable under first-past-the-post voting systems. This is why I considered Trudeau's betrayal of electoral reform to be a generational stab-in-the-back and swore I would never vote Liberal again.

And first-past-the-post is also why I am breaking that vow and voting Liberal in the upcoming election. My riding happens to be a "tossup" between Conservative and Liberal, and in this particular election I can't afford to "vote my conscience". The existence of Canada is at stake. And so I hold my nose really hard and recognize the reality of the facts before me.

Some people may be fortunate enough to be in ridings where a vote for NDP wouldn't literally help put Poilievre in power, but I am not. I must do what I can to actually help. I recommend everyone check your riding's polling numbers to confirm whether you have that luxury.

[–] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

My riding has been conservative for decades, so I get to vote for whoever I want. Not that it matters. :\

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It does matter, if nothing else in that you voted, and if not PC, then it is recorded that not 100% in your riding want PC. Don't please let FPTP dissuade you from voting at all.

[–] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

Oh I vote every election.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I hope nobody took my comment to suggest that it's not worth voting at all in a "safe" riding. Frankly that's a bit liberating, if I was in a riding that was already certain to go to any party (Conservative, Liberal, Natural Law, whatever) then that would mean I was free to vote my conscience. The popular vote doesn't mean anything in absolute legal terms but it's still a nice bit of psychological pressure to apply.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I don't think that's actually true. I detest FPTP but Westminster systems all around have all sorts of smaller parties that work because they have concentrated power bases. The NDP, the Bloc, etc have been electing MPs for decades. If what you're saying is true, they would have been disappeared by now.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

It's good that we have that but we can still yearn for more.

[–] unome@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

My riding last election was tied 50/50 liberals NDP and yet even adding up all those votes conservatives would still win. I assume a lower con and higher lib turnout this time around but honestly I can't be sure, I think the con voters here are lifetime.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

We do not have 2 party system. NDP still wins seats, and should continue to do so. Greens have seats. Understand your riding's politics for ABC vote.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I already voted for Carney to lead the Libs, but I'll not be voting for him in the general election if he doesn't answer these ~~questions~~ issues three:

We need to see proportional representation. It will drive engagement, especially for this campaign.

We need to see a return to the days of the 1% and corporations paying their fair share, since they are the ones who most benefit from our systems and infrastructure.

We need an end to welfare for the 1% and corporations. We know what a balance sheet is, and so does Carney.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

RCV is not categorically worse than PP.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

They're the same thing with different shoes on. If you're referring to RCV vs. FPTP.