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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More importantly.... one political party in this country continues to try to push those awful polices onto us no matter how much Reaganomics has hurt this nation. And yet election after election people decide to just sit it out because they can't be bothered.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"The Republicans are good for the economy. I'm an independent thinker." - words I never want to hear from American voters again, but am certain that I will.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair you can't blame them. (let me explain)

Republicans repeat that time and time and time again. They stick to that messaging all the time. Republicans are good for business. They are good for jobs. They support American workers. They repeat these slogans all the time. It is all a lie, but they repeat them so much that people do indeed believe them.

On the flip side Democrats have no idea how to communicate with the general public and tell them otherwise. Right after I posted in this thread, I read another story posted on Lemmy about how the economy is doing great, but Americans don't believe it. That's a Democrat problem because they are never able to explain to the American people WHY they are better than Republicans. For most of the last 50 years, a Democrat in the White House has meant a stronger economy. They are better for the workers, the environment, consumers. Yet they are terrible at sending a positive message to those groups and get them excited.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, I live in a right-wing area. I know these people. I grew up with these people. I know how they think. I know how they process arguments.

I can blame them.

But yes, Democrats fucking suck at messaging.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can do both. Blame them, but goddamn it is infuriating seeing Democrats miss one opportunity after another at connecting with workers and average folks.

[–] Ya_Boy_Skinny_Penis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, if your message isn't packaged with a heavy dose of hate, it's literally never gonna resonate with the Republican base.

[–] BilboBallbins@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Besides their ignorance, why do you think that they think and process arguments as you have observed?

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's ignorance at all. In general, I've found them quite capable of reasonable discussion and grasping the corrected concepts and facts which would undermine their worldview.

It's just that none of it matters.

Conversations a day or two later will be indistinguishable from conversations before the discussion. They return to tired old tropes because they're repeated in their social circles, and because they're comfortable to embrace. It's not a matter of intellectual rigor or even ideological devotion. It's just attachment to the familiar.