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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, I live in a right-wing area. I know these people. I grew up with these people. I know how they think. I know how they process arguments.

I can blame them.

But yes, Democrats fucking suck at messaging.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can do both. Blame them, but goddamn it is infuriating seeing Democrats miss one opportunity after another at connecting with workers and average folks.

[–] Ya_Boy_Skinny_Penis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, if your message isn't packaged with a heavy dose of hate, it's literally never gonna resonate with the Republican base.

[–] BilboBallbins@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Besides their ignorance, why do you think that they think and process arguments as you have observed?

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's ignorance at all. In general, I've found them quite capable of reasonable discussion and grasping the corrected concepts and facts which would undermine their worldview.

It's just that none of it matters.

Conversations a day or two later will be indistinguishable from conversations before the discussion. They return to tired old tropes because they're repeated in their social circles, and because they're comfortable to embrace. It's not a matter of intellectual rigor or even ideological devotion. It's just attachment to the familiar.