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If you didn't vote then you voted for the bad guy.
If you didn't vote you are just as bad as the MAGAniacs.
If you didn't vote you voted for Trump.
If you didn't vote you are responsible for the current situation.
i voted (harris obv) but they apparently had issues with my vote and didnt count it until literally after trump won :)
Both options were bad.
You ran a shit candidate and lost, take the L and be better
Cannot disagree more and this kind of rhetoric is not likely to sway non voters.
Who cares? Fuck them. They need to feel shame.
Its just not a winning strategy.
If you are fine with the world burning to stand on principles so be it though.
Do you understand why that sounds incredibly hypocritical in this context? This could read equally well as a condemnation of someone that didn't vote.
most non voters are not principled.
The leftists who didn't vote for the dems because they are just slightly better are absolute morons though.
Yeah well, absolving them of shame and blaming Anyone and everyone except nonvoters isn't a winning strategy either. As evidenced by gestures around
How about we shame the 2 candidates that should've won in blowout victories but instead lost to donald trump?
How about we shame the people that nominated them over the alternatives?
If anything, it just shows how awful the democrat's nominees were that they couldn't even beat trump.
You people only have yourselves to blame. Stop running loser candidates.
Fuck off
If you DID vote for Harris, you voted for slightly delayed fascism. You didn't vote for democracy, you just voted for slightly delayed fascism. I know, I voted for her. Democracy wasn't on the ballot.
I agree.
These useful idiots have been conditioned to think that a slow loss is a win, though.
It's a major reason why I will never vote for the 'lesser evil' candidate again.
If the people getting mad at me because I didn't vote and trump won, they should do something differently next election and run a candidate that is good, not just the lesser evil.
Spoiler alert: They won't do anything different and continue to blame the people for not "falling in line." This is a song and dance that will last the rest of our lives.
It's a major reason why I will never vote for the 'lesser evil' candidate again.
I get your point and I agree that voting for the lesser evil is still voting for evil but what is your solution?
The dems dont have a reason to pick a better candidate because they wont be the ones suffering under trump, its everyone else that suffers.
The solution is changing our culture. People need to value different things then put those values into action.
The problem is that democrats are greedy and entitled, too. They're not willing to give up their luxuries to help those who have less because they believe that those who have more deserve more, and those who have less deserve less.
It's why Bernie lost the nomination, twice.
Great point. The useful idiots should be picking better candidates in the primaries. There are other options besides the lesser and greater evils. I've mentioned before though how the useful idiots have been conditioned to believe that a slow loss is still a win; it's not.
Thanks, I only partially agree with you. While your solution is a good way, its also a long way. Culture changes are slow but people are suffering now under trump that wouldnt have suffered under Harris.
Dreaming of a better future is awesome but it shouldnt come at the cost of the present. Honestly the us political system sucks and I dont know how I would choose if my moral wouldnt allow me to support either candidate.
While I can respect your morality I can also understand that others are unhappy with the non voters because Harris is still far less evil than Trump.
I'm being the change I want to see in the world. Clearly supporting establishment politicians is not solving the problems that face us as a species, so I'm choosing to do something different.
When the useful idiots get tired of losing to fascists, then maybe they'll start to do something different, too.
I don't expect them to, though. It's part of what makes them useful idiots.
What exactly are you doing differently? I am not sure if I missed that or misunderstood something.
What I got is that you are not voting, which will change nothing to the better. And trying to change the culture?
Hey, if you don't want to understand something then you never will.
I've been very clear up to this point and should not have to elaborate further. You don't like what I'm saying, so you're trying to pretend it doesn't make sense.
I'm going to block you now. Once the bad-faith auto-arguments take hold, there's no point in engaging further.
Good luck.
Thanks for trying I guess :D
Well it was, but Cornell West was a snowball in hell
But what if you didn't vote because of the genocide in Palestine?
Does not voting in America somehow stop genocides in Palestine?
Yes.
How?
Don't bother, the person is just a raging moron or troll. Either way, it's not worth engaging.
I've already answered your question.
This one made me laugh. It's kind of got a British humor thing going.
Edit: Am I the only one who's going to upvote this man? Watch him for awhile, he's a legend.
Then you allowed that genocide to make way for the riviera of the middle east (sponsored by the USA)
If people who stayed home in 2024 voted for Trump's genocide, then logically, those who voted for Biden in 2020 voted for Biden's genocide. These things go both ways.
Why do you support genocide?
See how ridiculous this is?
I don't support it, but when you know both parties are going to support it, you at least go and vote for the one that won't fuck everything else up and won't put the genocide on a faster track than it already is.
It’s a really simple trolly problem. On one set of tracks was Palestine. On the second was Palestine , and American democracy.
Not voting was saying fuck Palestine, just as much as voting for Harris.
The US has never been a democracy, at best it was arguably a halfway decent representative republic at one time but if so that was before anyone here was born
@WoodScientist: "Well, there's genocide Trump MAGA and genocide, that's not got much genocide in it."
Yes.
We do not escape the implications of our choices.
Which genocide was Biden doing?
The same genocide that Trump is doing. In fact, Biden's death toll in Gaza is far, far higher than Trump's so far.
Huh. Can you send me the legislation, executive orders or policy decisions that Biden made ordering the systematic murder, displacement, or erasure of a complete group of people?
Edit : that silence is deafening.