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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The Dems fielded a candidate with potential, in a binary race against the absolute worst candidate ever.

Voters chose a felon with a pattern of grifting and lies.

Those are facts.

Here's the opinion: stop blaming the party for the people's mistake. Just secede and be done with it.

[–] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Uh, you missed a few steps. Like the people voicing concerns over Biden's mental health and being told to shove it while the party hid him from public view as much as possible. And then when they couldn't hide it anymore they still tried to gaslight us that we didn't see what we just saw.

And then finally they succumbed to that public pressure when it was far too late to have an actual primary and rally as a party, instead being told to vote for someone who was candidate-by-default.

The Dems constantly try to pander to the right which only fuels their real enemy in elections: voter apathy. If they actually governed and gave more than lip service, they'd never lose another election.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Biden could have gone comatose at the stand and I'd still support him with every fiber of my being. Voters fucked up. The left is splintered into pointless divisions and petty ideals. Take the L.

[–] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good for you, but still wrong. The party fucked up. It's their job to win elections, and they had loads of opportunities over the last 10 years to act differently and chose not to every time.

It's not the voters' fault that a heavily corporate-friendly party doesn't represent them well enough to reliably get votes. That's some victim blaming thinking right there.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Good for you, but still wrong. The party fucked up. It’s their job to win elections,

What are you even suggesting? You've been exposed to so much Tankie propoganda that you think its the politicians job to stuff ballot boxes and fabricate results like they do in the East?

The dems were inifinitely the better chose. Tbats all they should ever need to be if US Voters weren't stupid assholes who stayed home.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

What are you even suggesting?

That the party move to the left to get more voters and win. They moved to the right knowing that they would get no additional voters and lost.

But at least you didn't have to abandon the unconditional support for genocide that will always define the centrist wing of the party.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

The first job of a political party is to win elections, because that predicates action on any issues they care about.

Saying we shouldn't blame the party for losing is like saying we shouldn't blame a mechanic for not knowing how to open the hood of a car.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Centrists would rather lose to trump than win with a progressive. You got exactly what you wanted.

[–] NimdaQA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The Dems fielded a candidate with potential, in a binary race against the absolute worst candidate ever.

I am sorry but this is nonsense. Kamala Harris’s best point was that she wasn’t Trump.

Kamala Harris toned down her attacks on big business, she made no plans to improve America’s health care system other than vague promises to cancel debt, touted the endorsement of war criminal Dick Cheney who wanted to invade seven countries in five years and whom was partially responsible for the deaths of a million, spent half as much time focusing on the most important issues during her campaign compared to Trump, and touted a Fortune 500 investment banking company‘s endorsement for her economic plans which made her look like an out of touch elitist.

All Harris brought to the table was “freedom” meanwhile Trump came out with right wing populist rhetoric and people seemed to like Trump’s rhetoric more considering that they have long since become disillusioned with the Status Quo.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Her Tax Plan was to tax the rich, if anything was watered down it was the media you were spoonfed without an ounce of skepticism.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Whose job was it to get their message out?

Centrists seem to think that because the press is their personal PR arm during the primaries, they're their allies during the general. It ain't so.

[–] NimdaQA@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The problem wasn't her idea of taxing the rich, it was touting the endorsement of bankers in regards for her economic plans:

"is why Goldman Sachs . . . is why Moody's, which is why Wharton School of Business, which is why 16 Nobel laureates, have collectively determined after analyzing our plans . . . mine would strengthen the economy, his would weaken it." - Kamala Harris

Especially when the one's that endorsed her economic plans can only be described as:

a "great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money "

Is touting the endorsement of bankers and Bush era war criminals really the most effective strategy that the democrat party can muster?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Its a strategy, not the best, and it should be enough. Hopefully they learn from this and do better, but it should have been enough. People should have been voting in record shattering numbers for her.

When even the Oligarchs think the GOP candidate is too dangerous to American Democracy, thats the canary.

[–] NimdaQA@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Let’s hope they do better in 2028.