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Imagine there are still people who chose to go to USA voluntarily?
Will Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart?
It appears so.
Our checks and balances within our federal government have failed. Categorically. Our government is not equipped to deal with internal threats like this. We have too many weaknesses within our system and too many individuals unwilling to live up to their oaths.
That leaves it up to the general public. Right now, not gonna happen. Not sure what's going to happen over the next few years. Things are going to get progressively worse. People will get more desperate. Violent crime will increase. These factors may push Americans to protest, probably violently, at levels never before seen in this country. That could bring about a positive change. But I'm not really betting on that happening. People are complacent. People are wage slaves. We're going to have to lose our internet and TV and cell phone service before Americans get bloodthirsty on a large scale. Or if they seriously fuck with social security. That'll cause riots.
But if they're even remotely smart fascists they'd know to do this all slowly to prevent Americans from noticing or at least to prevent them from getting super mad super quick. Like, fuck with Social Security a little bit, so people get mad, but not that mad. Then do it some more a year later.
They're not particularly smart though. So we're basically going to see over the next few years if Americans can live up to our rebellious stereotype or if we've become meek and frail through lack of true hardship.
The general public that opposes this isn't organized yet. This needs to happen first. People seem to want Americans who oppose this to go out and do mass shootings in areas we THINK there might be magats and hope for the best. I really think a lot of this is russian/other foreign trolls trying to rage bait someone into doing this. The people who want to go that route need to have intelligence and other leg work done for them to point them to the right places to get the most optimal results with the least collateral damage. I have no clue how to organize in a way that rookie mistakes wouldn't be made and people wouldn't end up getting imprisoned or killed before they were able to get what they wanted to accomplish done.
Absolutely, the whole system was based on the administration respecting the law, when it doesn't do that, all the checks and balances don't work.
Sadly that seems like the best hope we have.
There are a lot of protests going on right now - the news isn't covering it.
Been to three so far in MN already and plenty before that. Things will get wilder as the weather warms up as sad as that is, it is a reality.
I think the legal, standing around with signs protest is going to have to have its toothier cousin (the violent riot) starting up again alongside it if we want anything to change. They already painted the 2020 protests as "burning the cities down" despite them being >90% peaceful. We might as well -- to reference Kendrick Lamar's lyrics -- fuck being rational and give em what they asked for.
Are people supposed to go around committing mass shootings where they believe magats are? Is that the violence we should be committing here in the US? Maybe we get a magat, maybe we get other blue voters and their families? I'm not saying violence won't have it's place if necessary but it needs to be targeted and there are no left wing organized groups out there to coordinate that.
Yup.
Legal avenues and peaceful protests aren't viable.
Violence will have to be the answer. Historically it always is if legal avenues and peaceful protests fail.
Fascists do not respond to anything other than violence.
It's coming. The question is how much violence will be necessary to bring about change?
And it all could have been avoided if Americans behaved like adults and refrained from empowering a traitorous felon rapist.
Where? how do you know? how does the rest of the world find out about these?
Being part of three of them myself in MN is how I would know they're happening. Are you just believing the lies that not a single one of us is doing anything whatsoever?
There are images each week of a new protest in my city subreddit on reddit
I was curious what would happen if I googled "protests happening right now" and interestingly enough, it sent back this link: https://usprotests.liveuamap.com/
I'd question the credibility at this point. I've spent 0 minutes on there.
Aside from that...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN-NxUYGpAo&list=RDNSdN-NxUYGpAo&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieXcaRvKAz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHitRUYRbdk&list=RDNSNHitRUYRbdk&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tro3pCO0YWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBMF2OU-xR4
Honestly, just fucking around on Lemmy every other day or so, I always see a new post regarding a protest.
Thanks for the links!... definitely a balm on the shattered trust in the American people
::Looks at Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart::
Yes.
Speak for yourself. What have you done to combat injustice in your home today?
Believe it or not yes some of us are trying to do something. You’ll have to forgive us for not having the same resources as the executive branch of the US.
Many idiots who are understandably mad/frustrated as well as foreign trolls/bots are trying to get Americans to become indiscriminate mass shooters regardless of who they end up taking down with them. The normal people telling us to get violent don't understand what it really takes to get an organized militant anti-government group off the ground. Any 'violence' that happens in this country by our side cannot be indiscriminate it must be targeted and reduce collateral damage to other people who support us.
Yeah, pretty likely.
I'd rather live in neo-fascist USA than in a war zone where I'm liable to be sent to the frontlines and die bleeding out in a trench after a drone blows my leg off.
I'd rather live in neo-fascist USA than live in poverty in many parts of Latin America where I would make 10x higher salary for unskilled labor. I would also have a 10x lower chance of getting my throat slit walking down the street at night.
Neo-fascist USA has literally threatened war with Canada and other neighboring countries, so if you think you won't be on the front lines in a nonsense war started by fascists, then history has a very important lesson to teach you.
Chances are you and other Americans will be fighting in Ukraine alongside Russia by next year at the rate this clown show is excellerating.
There's no American freedom in Neo-fascist USA, just whatever the broligarchy wants. The rights and freedom you, and every previous generation of Americans fought for are pretty much all gone now, so you are sorely mistaken if you assume you now have any.
i was born in a country with a military dictatorship who used to disappear people. just because the country is going to hell doesn't mean you can't carve out a meaningful life for yourself in the chaos. and living in a dystopian version of the US is probably still better than living in a dystopian version of a 3rd world country
at no point in US history has the US been at war with a neighboring country over a trade war escalation and instituted a draft as a result of that war
any future war is going to be versus China and we've probably got at least a few years before that comes to fruition.
we're in the years leading up to WW3. think of it like the early 1930s. if you look at history, everywhere sucked. i'd rather be in a 1st world country when the bombs go off rather than a 3rd world country where i'm liable to starve due to mass famines
You're arguing for the pros of living in Germany post WW2. Because if WW3 happens, the US will not be on the side of the good guys.
Im sorry you lived in a 3rd world dictatorship. I imagine you moved to the US to escape that. I would very much like to preserve the freedom that attracted you to this country in the first place, rather than be complacent as we break bad due to social medias firehose of propaganda.
i would very much like to preserve the freedom as well. i'm not pro-fascism if that wasn't clear
i was just saying that even if shit gets really bad here people may still come because everything else could be worse
Fair enough. And thanks for the clarification.
That's not exactly voluntarily then, if it's to save your life.