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What would you do if Capitalism didn't curb your potential and force you to sell most of your time? (lemy.lol)

submitted 1 year ago by matcha_addict@lemy.lol to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I often daydream about how society would be if we were not forced by society to pigeon hole ourselves into a specialized career for maximizing the profits of capitalists, and sell most of our time for it.

The idea of creating an entire identity for you around your "career" and only specializing in one thing would be ridiculous in another universe. Humans have so much natural potential for breadth, but that is just not compatible with capitalism.

This is evident with how most people develop "hobbies" outside of work, like wood working, gardening, electronics, music, etc. This idea of separating "hobbies" and the thing we do most of our lives (work) is ridiculous.

Here's how my world could be different if I owned my time and dedicated it to the benefit of my own and my community instead of capitalists:

more reading, learning and excusing knowledge with others.
learn more handy work, like plumbing and wood working. I love customizing my own home!
more gardening
participate in the transportation system (picking up shifts to drive a bus for example)
become a tour guide for my city
cook and bake for my neighbors
academic research
open source software (and non-software) contributions
pick up shifts at a café and make coffee, tea and smoothies for people
pick up shifts to clean up public spaces, such as parks or my own neighborhood
participate in more than one "professions". I studied one type of engineering but work in a completely different engineering. This already proves I can do both, so why not do both and others?

Humans do not like the same thing over and over every day. It's unnatural. But somehow we revolve our whole livelihood around if.

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[–] ATQ@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not every society forces you to seek wage labour. This is only the case in capitalism.

What’s an example of a society that doesn’t require work?

You seem really hung up on the term” wage labor”. That’s not the only way to create or store value. But it is the most efficient. We could completely eliminate “money” but the concept of value would remain. And cooperation would only be more difficult and less efficient if I didn’t want to barter my chicken for your potato. Money, and “wage labor, regardless of who pays your wages, allow for the transfer of goods and services between individuals who don’t need the others goods or services now.

The government would hunt them down.

No they wouldn’t. Because except for your family and friends, nobody gives a fuck about you. It’s hilarious that y’all think this is even a possibility. I mean seriously, if I went missing tomorrow, would you know or care? And if not, why would anyone else?

Are you really stating this as a genuine option?! Do you know how fucking expensive that is??

This is absolutely an option. People all over the world do it every day.

Agitating for class consciousness and solidarity with fellow workers

Moving seems easier, quicker, and more effective. But this could work too. Carry on.

Anyway, always fun to chat with college communists. Have a great day.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's stunning to me that you can't conceive of another way for goods to be stored or distributed. Community stores? Mutual aid? Never heard of these? There is no need for money or any analogue. Bartering is also kind of a myth. No one ever participated in bartering on a large scale, even before money. People just gave each other things, all the time.

Relevant terms for further reading:

Mutual aid

Gift economy

Library economy

Also, yes, the government would hunt you down because you'd no longer be paying taxes. They kinda don't like that.

Moving is not an option if you don't have enough money, and no way to earn it.

One last thing - I left college a decade ago. :)