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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

more well spoken

Senile on public display including the debate

has a better moral compass,

Which includes full send genocide and ignoring constituents who opposed this, including within his own administration.

They only switched to Kamala for the PACs that refused to give lobbying funds because even they knew Biden would easily lose.

Of course PAC money is no match for actual votes, so after Kamala got her campaign paycheck and told the uncommitted movement to get bent, she inevitably lost.

Yes even in the flawed democracy of the USA, constituents ultimately decide who wins. They didn't even bother lying or pandering to voting blocs for support. They straight up banned them from the main DNC rally and refused to meet their demands.

This is such a no brainer. Trump tries his best not to alienate his voter base which is why his policy is hot trash garbage all over the place, but he actually did the bargain basement job of a politician which is to promise changes for your vote, regardless of whether or not he actually fulfills them.

Biden and Kamala were both content in dropping millions of democratic voter demands and willingly losing to Trump to defend a POS ethnostate across the Atlantic.

Of course they lost every single swing state.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Have you listened to trump speak? He cannot string together a single coherent sentence. The guy is a moron. The Senile talking point was manufactured by the right and parroted by people like you. Notice how it completely disappeared when it was trump vs harris.

[–] iamanurd@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is your point that people stopped talking about Biden being senile when Biden was no longer in the race? Because…

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"This candidate has issues with being coherent. Let's remove him with a younger fresher candidate."

"Did you ever notice how once they removed the grandpa with dementia, no one was calling for him to be removed??? Wake up sheeple!!"

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The issue is that Trump is also a senile old person but the issue was framed as "oh well at least he is not as old and senile as Biden" but when biden dropped out the right dropped that talking point and never mentioned it again. Because it was never about that.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Cool, Trump a bat shit insane narcissist who only cares about himself, who can barely say 3 words before losing track of what he was even trying to do. Toddlers have better object permanence than Trump.

Now explain why that is why we should have kept someone on the same path of the same mental leakage trying to win against Trump.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

OK I will. The weeks leading up to an election is not the time to be criticizing your candidate if you want to win. You should be supporting and backing your candidate if you think they are the better choice. Your support is what convinces others and insulates your candidate against attacks from the otherside.

Because no one on the left seemed to support Biden the Democrats and were constantly trashing him online (which the right amplified and used for their propaganda) the dems made the hard choice to switch candidates and Harris had 0 time to prepare a campaign and narrative. She did an amazing job but she didn't have the time she needed to win.

You can blame dems for running the wrong candidate but I don't think the dems expected their base to be completely suicidal when so much was at stake. Its not like Biden is a danger to the country, he's had very few controversy and has passed a ton of good legislation.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

So when are we ever supposed to criticize a candidate if they're not trying to win a popularity contest?

You criticize them in office, you get called being unhappy who won.

You criticize the policies in time of midterms and people say you just throwing the election.

You criticize them in time for reelection they say you just want the other side to win.

When is the time we can criticize the politicians we voted for, for enabling and pushing forward policies that have actively hurt the people who voted for them?

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 hour ago

In office is fine. Leading up to and around the primaries is the best time.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -2 points 23 hours ago

No my point was that when it was biden v trump age was a huge concern for so many people then when it was harris v trump suddenly they dont care that trump is as old as biden and mentally unfit.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

The problem is we watched that debate. The dude belongs in a memory care unit. I still don't know how he avoided being forced to resign the presidency after that.