I wouldn't say fuck upscaling entirely, especially for 4k it can be useful on older cards. FSR made it possible to play Hitman on my 1070. But yeah, if I'm going for 4k I probably want very good graphics too, eg. in RDR2, and I don't want any upscaling there. I'm so used to native 4k that I immediately spot if it's anything else - even in Minecraft.

And frame generation is only useful in non-competetive games where you already have over 60 FPS, otherwise it will still be extremely sluggish, - in which case, it's not realy useful anymore.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 2 points 1 day ago

The point is, hardware is powerful enough for native 4K, but instead of that power being used properly, games are made quickly and then upscaling technology is slapped on at the end. DLSS has become a crutch and Nvidia are happy to keep pushing it and keeping a reason for you to buy their GPUs every generation, because otherwise we are at diminishing returns already.

It's useful for use on older hardware, yes, I have no issue with that, I have issue with it being used on hardware that could otherwise easily run 4K 120FPS+ with standard rasterization and being marketed as a 'must'.