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Listen, I can't deal with my sore back, bum knee, AND a hangover all at once.
I've never actually had a hangover in my life, despite drinking since I was 16.
What does it feel like?
Like someone didn't hit me in the face with a crowbar.
It feels like being sick with a horrible cold with nausea and vertigo but without a fever or runny nose.
Headaches. Vomiting. Like the flu.
I learned a few tricks to avoid hangovers. Drinking water in-between drinks, ramen noodles before sleeping(or whatever your favorite soup is) and avoiding getting to a point where the world spins when your eyes are closed.
Huh. I may have lucked into doing things right then. I always drink plenty of water, tea, etc. even when drinking alcohol as well.
If you're not into ramen, look into hydration products like liquid IV. The ramen is filling a similar role in that it's salty AF, so you're helping replenish electrolytes that help prevent the hangover.
Ever since I started including one or two of those in my post drinking/pre bedtime routine and I haven't had a hangover in years.
If you're consuming that much sodium, you're gonna also want to drink water though because it can dehydrate you. Which also causes/worsens hangovers.
Yeah, art if my routine when drinking is to never have rounds in a row, its always a glass of water in between. Liquid IV/ramen broth are water based, so that helps as well
I try to do 1:1 alcohol to water (one glass of water per alcoholic beverage), but that often becomes hard to enforce on myself after a couple of drinks lol
I don't have an issue with doing 1:1 because the spectre of a hangover makes even drunk passerby keep their shit together. Who has time to lose one of your too few free days to bedlock? Migraines to that enough as it is.....
You are greatly overestimating my capacity for proper executive functioning.
Legit. I'm (surprisingly) good at that just out of fear lol. It's amazing what pavlovian training can do
I remember being this. I also remember everyone telling me to enjoy it while it lasts... and they're aboslutely right.
One day it just goes away. Suddenly you have a hangover for the first time, and then that's it. You're no longer the "I don't get hangovers" person.
I'm 58. I'm pretty sure that if I haven't had one by now I won't have one.
Well dont binge drink and youll be fine.
Like being poisoned.
It feels like you are piloting an older flesh suit with a dying battery. The actions are on a slight delay, there a weird buzzing in the head, everything feels dry even after drinking water, and light is the enemy. That is at least how it is when I get a weed hangover. I haven't had an alcohol one in ages some I stopped drinking drinking.
Stuff your mouth full of cotton, and find someone to kick you in the head a few times. That's pretty close.
Sounds uncomfortable. Maybe i should buy some ibuprofen in preparation
Alcohol isn't how you deal with the first two? (edit: This part is a joke, lest I misrepresent myself)
In no particular order, I've dislocated my shoulder fourteen times, cracked my spine, broken my ankle and had it incorrectly repaired, broken my arm (fucking doctor called me a crybaby - I was seven!) and I think had it correctly repaired but I can still feel it, broken my tailbone, tore my miniscus pad (by helping an old lady garden, heh), and probably some other stuff. I think I'm even developing sciatica issues.
I know it's not healthy, but alcohol helps on occasion.
The anti-chiropractic echo chamber that is Lemmy left me in in pain for far too long. I'm certain they vary wildly in skill and quality, but after just two sessions, my 3 weeks of lower back pain are gone. Dude is a godsend.
The placebo effect does exist, and I still remain skeptical of chiropractors, but I'm glad that you were able to get some relief.
Fact is, the objective scientific/medical understanding of the causes and treatment of lower back pain is pretty limited anyhow, so you might as well try whatever you can.
The placebo effect is pretty magical in itself. You're convincing your body to heal itself and it does in a minority of people. I guess there really are wizards among us.
The placebo effect is less about healing yourself and more about altering your perception of your situation
Sure, but it has actual, measurable effects. You can cause your body to fix itself by tricking it into thinking you took a medicine to fix it. That's insane.
The ortho basically shrugged and told me to go to physical therapy. Physical therapy was nice but was very slow going and time consuming. Chiropractor brought immediate relief. Would I like them to have a deeper medical and scientific understanding of what they are doing? Of course. But I am not going to argue with results.
That's the thing though, physiotherapy is proven to work, through decades of practice and research. We know how and why various exercises etc. have the effects they do based on what damage you've suffered.
Chiropracty was founded with the belief that misalignment of your vertebra is the sole cause of various illnesses and disease, ergo if you pop your spine correctly you'll cure your cancer, or your asthma, or what have you. That's obviously not true. There's no real evidence that ciropractic manipulation actually fixes anything, but people do experience relief for a time. Then that passes and they need to return for follow up sessions.
There are also dangers involved with the practise, with people suffering serious injuries, and some even dying because of it.
I wouldn't want someone without a proper education to mess around with my spine. It's too important.
There are plenty of people who swear by them. There are plenty who have been fucked up by them too.
I have a friend who went to one, was getting relief for his back pain, and then decided to adjust his neck. He immediately felt like he was electrocuted and almost threw up from dizziness. He is now 4 years deep into chronic, debilitating neck pain, that didn't exist prior to the adjustment. He is having to be treated with pain injections just to function.
Ex-wife was an RN and not prone to magical thinking. Chiropractor fixed her shit in 6 weeks, told her she was done, don't come back. She was and she didn't. It was honestly amazing.
So yeah, I won't lump them all in with the modern alchemists, but OTOH, they should have been self-regulating if they wanted to be taken more seriously.
I just feel like... If you believe in science, and want to actually help people, you become a physiotherapist or an orthopedist or something. You know, real medicine.
Like, was there something that specific chiropractor did that they would not have been able to do if they had become a physiotherapist instead? I feel like there is a Venn diagram here, where the shit that chiropractors do that actually works is entirely overlapped with some other form of actual doctor.
They did it to themselves with the voodoo bullshit trying to be pretend doctprs but it doesn't mean their services are useless. Medical Community used their stupid PR to drive them from the discourse. Remember that doctors are not our friends, just another merchant that might do you right.
Many people are satisfied with their chiropractor services and that in of it self is value even if some quack thinks it's placebo.
That seems awfully self-selecting, doesn't it? Someone that is dissatisfied is not likely to remain a customer
Why are you blaming this on actual medical practitioners immediately after saying "They did it to themselves with the voodoo bullshit trying to be pretend doctors". Of course actual doctors aren't interested in what people who are lying about being doctors have to say
The customer decides, not the quack;)
The customer decides what?
I don't see what point you're trying to make. Yes, the customer decides what they're happy with. I didn't say otherwise
The chiropractic field drove themselves from the scientific discourse by refusing to participate in peer-reviewed double-blind studies. I'm very good friends with a chiropractor and know others through them. If I had a nickel for every "science can't study what we do" I'd be a rich man. We just don't talk about it because it's not productive to friendship lol
Doctors are not just merchants. I've had indifferent ones and ones that really gave a damn. Many of them go into the field and stick with it to help people. Many do not, but it's not accurate to paint the bunch with one brush.
Not sure how it works in other countries but in US they are just merchants.... You are only getting a proper care if they care. They have responsibility to merely do what their corpo employer tells them to. Which ain't much.