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Trump Medicare pick Dr. Oz says uninsured ‘don’t have right to health’ in resurfaced clip
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I always figured a great deal of those people would move to government work. They already have the expertise.
The problem is that there are large parts of those companies that are replicated multiple times that would be made redundant.
Each company has an IT department, legal department, marketing department, and claims department, among a lot else. Most of those would be redundant or unnecessary in a single payer system.
Part of the reason single payer is more cost effective is eliminating administrative overhead. And “administrative overhead “ is code for jobs.
Any job that gets between a patient and the care they need is a job that needs to die.
No doubt. I'm an antiwork radical and think nobody should have a job. But the one thing both political parties and the public seem to agree on is "more jobs" so anyone who says "less jobs" isn't going to get elected.
And what will you do with all these unemployed people?
Checkmate, guys. We can't endanger some jobs in order to help everyone. Sorry. Guess we'll just keep doing this failure of a system that keeps a few rich from the rest of us struggling.
No answer huh? I'll send a million beggars to your doorstep. Jesus Christ you people are children. Can we actually talk about how this works?!
I'm sorry, I actually took your message as the typical shutdown response aka "but my jobs" as a reaction to any change. For example when Clinton came to WV coal miners offering a gateway to alternatives and was told coal jobs or nothing. Granted it was campaigning, but the mindset of resistance to change is very strong in an established community or industry.
To answer you more seriously (which was hidden in my first reply), some jobs have to disappear when there are major changes. But others can open up as well, and many of them will have some commonality. I guarantee there is no plan of transition for these same companies when there are mergers or bankruptcies, so what do those people do in those cases? They find a comparable job. I thought our economy was doing great as far as employment and opportunity, this shouldn't be a big deal if all that is true (I think it's a lot of smoke and mirrors, but it doesn't change the point).
Change hurts people, there's no denying that. But so does stagnation, and I think without change more people get hurt while others profit. That does need to change.
Outlining and discussion of what needs to happen is difficult in social media. Few have the time or knowledge to do a proper debate and rebuttal, cite sources, and follow the many chains that develop. But it's interesting that we all do seem to acknowledge that what we have sucks, and something needs to happen.
Nope. Obviously, pointing out the reality of the situation and asking to discuss possible ways to overcome the very real and very difficult barriers the capitalists have erected means you actually secretly agree that those barriers should be in place and therefore think we should do nothing instead.
I say this as a lefty AuDHDer: the amount of neurodivergent black-white thinking in leftist communities is extremely concerning. Kind of comes with the territory, probably, given that authoritarians want us dead, but it can create some serious infighting. It should not be controversial to acknowledge the fact that in our current climate, single payer is almost impossible thanks to the opposition from the capitalists.
Do not question comrade! That's the liberal social media vibe. You have to carefully couch your statements or get burned down for asking.
And that seems logical! But we've talked about combining the local city and county for cost savings. Turns out, it wouldn't be too big a deal.
Not like if we doubled the population we'd need the same amount of people approving construction planning. We'd pretty much need double. And that's one of 1,000 examples.
But you're spot on with admin overhead! That would indeed drop. Not by half, as in my example, but it would certainly drop. The biggest drop would be profit. And we can all agree healthcare shouldn't run like private enterprise.
I'm totally with you. Yes, got single-payer would slash thousands and thousands of jobs, maybe a million or three. And yes, that would fucking hurt. It's like the Obama quotes you posted. We didn't start on a level playing field, we started in a ditch.
Lemmy hates our sort of discourse. "NO! It's all very simple! Why won't you talk simple!"
I’m 100% on board with Medicare for all and have been since 2016. I’m just trying to recognize logistical and political speedbumps
Lemmy: NO! SIMPLE ONLY!
You're fighting an uphill battle.