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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What exactly does that accomplish except to risk double jeopardy? B

Double jeopardy doesn't prevent state and federal charges for the same crime...

So unless you think Trump's DOJ will prosecute them, I don't understand why you're talking about double jeopardy. I mean, you seem to think Biden has to charge and finish?

Like, you have some basic misunderstandings about our legal system (and other stuff) but you're very opinionated about this and openly antagonistic to people trying to assist you...

I'm not going to explain basic legal concepts while you try to have a slap fight over God knows what.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You're correct that double jeopardy applies separately to state and federal charges. Literally nobody in this thread was disputing that; this is a strawman.

I mean, you seem to think Biden has to charge and finish?

Yes. For a successful federal prosecution started under this term, Biden has to charge and finish. Else you risk double jeopardy at the federal level while accomplishing absolutely nothing. Are you seriously suggesting that the DoJ assemble a case and attempt to bring it to trial in 28 days, then when that does fuck-all, hand this case off to a state AG which would presumably be Florida? You've still refused to answer what possible benefit Biden's DoJ charging Gaetz at the federal level today confers, which tells me that your answer is "I have no good answer and I've backed myself into a corner, so I'm going to refuse to say that and double down instead."

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You think all federal charges just disappear every time there is a new administration?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think that sentence constitutes an argument or even a complete thought?

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think we should abandon even attempting to follow the rule of (moral) law just because we know a certain piece of shit often ignores it? I think you have to do the right thing regardless as long as it's in your power.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

No one said that and I'm not sure where you got the idea

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, I'm not actually suggesting the ridiculous strawman you've just constructed. Of course plenty of prosecutions have continued through more than one administration. That said...

Holy fucking shit, are you actually suggesting that Trump wouldn't direct his corrupt-ass DoJ to immediately drop the case against Gaetz? Is that actually how far in denial the "Um, actually, just charge him lol" camp is now? That they think if Biden charges him now, Trump will see to completion the federal prosecution of one of his cronies who he tried to nominate as the head of the DoJ? That's the argument you're running with? If so, then I'm done here, because that's a delusion well beyond anything that's worth anyone's time.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

givesomefucks really cares about one thing and that's raging toward Democrats. That's all.

And weirdly, he has a fan club, apparently. I find it appalling that people upvote him and jump in to assist his "arguments"