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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As if anyone expected to play as any other character than Ciri.

[–] Pooptimist@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I hoped for a witcher (whichever gender) from one of the other schools, tbh

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I kind of hoped for a custom character like V

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

So did I, but I mean, given the current game development climate, Ciri was an extremely predictable pick.

Not only is Ciri a woman, which modern games seem to be making super majority of main protagonists these days, but she also has market familiarity. Her character is recognizable and therefore has a builtin audience, where a new character does not.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If women make up around 50% of the people on earth, shouldn't they make up around 50% of the main characters?

[–] felykiosa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think that wanting equality over men/women % of MC is not something you would want to focus on I would rather have a quality story and universe whatever of the gender of the MC.

( I will clarify my point , I am an human therefore I am for gender equality obviously but I don't think that this metric is the most interesting )

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I completely agree that the quality of the story is kinda the whole point, but I am tired of seeing comments like the one RightHand made; complaining that she is a woman just because she is a woman.

[–] felykiosa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Yep redpills comments are tiring

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It isn't a complaint, simply an observation. I usually pick to play as a woman in games I can choose the gender of the protagonist anyway.

[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Same. If I'm going to have to look at an ass for 40 hours of gameplay, I'd rather it was a woman's ass.

[–] Silverseren@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, I agree. But, based on that argument, it's totally fine if 100% of pre-created MCs are women then, since it's only the story and universe that are important (and I would be 100% a-ok with that happening).

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Besides, they've already established some of her signature abilities and had people play as her in some of the previous game, kicking the familiarity up an extra notch.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep. Ciri isnt the worst choice in the world, I just was hoping I could have played as my own character instead. It will be interesting to see what they do with the story.

Yeah, I'd have preferred making my own character too but, failing that, a great character that's already established in the series and has been a lot of fun playing as so far ain't bad either!

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really hope they don't stick with Ciri gameplay from TW3, I never liked when I was forced to play as Ciri, her abilities was less fun than Geralt signs.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Judging by the video, she'll be behaving more like a witcher, with the two swords, the signs, and the potion quaffing. If they hold to that and also let her keep her "short teleport" move from TW3, I'm looking forward to it 🙂

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

If they changed the double dodge = roll to double dodge = short teleport, but not as crazy as in TW3 that would be cool, they could also make the whole gameplay more agile than TW3, seems like a good fit for Ciri.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I did. The games already completely shit on the ciri book lore. I was hoping for a fresh slate with new characters, perhaps during a different time period entirely.

[–] caboose2006@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 5 points 1 week ago

I was hoping you could be the first witcher. That would have been awesome.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In my opinion it doesn't make all that much sense because of major Witcher 3 spoilers.

[–] spooky_mango@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

WITCHER 3 SPOILER BELOW

SpoilerHow so? One of the endings literally has geralt gift a witcher sword to Ciri. The only thing I'm confused about is how she now seems to have the witcher mutations

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Witcher books spoilerOne of the early Witcher books mentioned that Ciri was given some witcher drugs while she was training at Kaer Morhen, but didn't undergo the trial of the grasses at Triss' request.

[–] generaldenmark@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Continuation of the book spoilers

Wacky books tbh. I don’t remember thinking it was for her to undergo trail they gave it to her, but mostly because that’s all they really knew to do

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It makes perfect sense with two of the three endings, and could even work with the third depending on how much CDPR wants to explain the cosmology behind the white frost.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Nah. Cat eyes and witcher potions don't. They have some explaining to do.

[–] snazzles@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

I imagine we'll get that lore in the game no?

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it really that hard to imagine she eventually undertook the Trial? Yeah Kaer Morhen lost the ability to administer the Trial, but there's like 10 different Witcher "schools." Maybe we'll see Ciri working with the School of the Crane or w/e.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As far as we know it has never been done on a woman or an adult. Also, she already has super powers. Why risk a procedure that only 3 in 10 young boys used to survive?

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is just wrong, School of the Cat managed to successfully get to a point where 1/10 women survived. School of Crane is the later iteration of the School of Cat, which is why I mentioned them specifically. It's reasonable to assume they kept iterating on the original formula for the trial, so maybe they've gotten to a survival rate of 3/10 for women as well by the time of the game?

As for why, it's because Ciri wants to be a proper Witcher like Geralt. She was raised in Kaer Morhen, one of the ending of Witcher 3 is Geralt handing her a Witcher sword. You really can't think why she would take the Trial, even knowing the risk?

[–] uid0gid0@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Ciri can't be a proper Witcher. She can't do Signs because she is a Source, as Triss discovered. That was at least half the reason her Witcher training was cut short and Triss took over her training before they sent her to Yennifer. The other half being the herbs and mushrooms they were giving her were interfering with her development. She never got the Witcher mutagens at all. Ciri's abilities are completely different from those of a Witcher due to her Elder blood.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

School of the Cat managed to successfully get to a point where 1/10 women survived. School of Crane is the later iteration of the School of Cat, which is why I mentioned them specifically.

Where is this info from? I could only find fan fiction so far.

As for why, it's because Ciri wants to be a proper Witcher like Geralt.

Too thin for a 70% death rate when you already have most of what it takes for other reasons.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 1 points 1 week ago

I guess it depends on what you call fanfiction? It's from Opowieści ze świata Wiedźmin, which is a collection of short stories written by authors other than Andrzej Sapkowski in the Witcher universe. The authors have other published works, so I'd argue it's a bit more official than pure fanfiction, but I can't confirm how canon it's considered. Certainly something CD Projekt Red could rip-off for their non-canon story set like 20 years later though.

Also Ciri has been well established to be a headstrong idiot, so I'm not sure why you're trying to examine her decision through rational logic. I'd bet she'd accept the Trial even with a 0% survival rate if she felt it made her a "proper Witcher."

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's almost definitely a break with the series in that you likely won't be able to import your save file, which always was a core feature of the series. There are also other lore details that don't add up here, which have already been explained. There could've been many ways to progress the story but I don't see how that is possible here. It's most likely a soft reboot.

[–] N1ghtstalk3r@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Some games do allow you to import saves from older games that have swapped the MC. They just take the choices you made in the story arc and use that to create conditions for the world you’re now in. But it’s a rare occasion from what I know.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It could work the same way as the three origin stories in CP77: each ending from The Witcher 3 leading to a separate intro story with a time skip before the main game begins.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

I guess that could be possible though I doubt it. The 3 origin stories in Cyberpunk were extremely shallow and didn't add anything to the story. I don't see why they would go for it again when it didn't work out last time.