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Moderators delete Reddit thread as doctors torch dead UnitedHealthcare CEO
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From a mod of /r/medicine:
The issue will stay systematic if we dont hold the people who make the decisions in the system accountable. The CEOs decisions directly impacted people, thats not a system thats his choice. Poverty is systematic too, but when a poor person does a crime they have to suffer the consequences of it. God forbid rich criminals see consequences. Mods seem to be arguing he had no agency in his choices which is a lie especially if you compare him to other insurance CEOs
Not only that, but his particular company denies claims at twice the industry average. UHC isn't in the same category as the rest of the industry, they're particularly bad.
Alt: image included in a Boston globe article published today that shows claim denial rates per several insurance companies, average is 16% United is 32%
The big gap is indicating they are probably trying to do as shitty a job as possible without incurring legal repercussions on top of already being in a fucked up industry. For-profit insurers makes as little sense as for-profit prisons or military or mail.
Yes, and also all these companies are evil and they all are more than worthy of the UHC CEO treatment.
No, but he certainly profited of it, and made it worse for people who had the misfortune of being trapped with united.
Fuck him, and fuck that hangwringing excuse bullshit. Maybe it wont be so systemic if more heads continue to be popped.
Considering that BCBS just halted their anesthesia plans... I'd say someone is taking notice.
I bet you there was still someone in their offices doing a cost benefit analysis on whether doing it and risking their CEO being ganked was worth it or not, before backpedaling
%100 they had meetings on this
Well, good news. Anthem BCBS rolled back those plans (at least temporarily) after "backlash".
Stay mad and loud, folks -- it's the only thing they fear.
I didn't create or control the gas chambers I just operated them!
Sure he did. It may have only been one subsection of it, but he absolutely had blood on his hands for his decisions. You don't get to run an insurance company with one of the highest denial rates out there and not have culpability.
And even if somebody else steps up and doesn't fix it, that doesn't absolve him of the blood on his hands.
I don't see why they wouldn't just let the reddit Admins deal with it, honestly. they're unpaid workers, let the paid managers step in if they must.
they're scared of losing their tiny amount of power
I can't speak for Reddit, but on Lemmy, admins keep track of "unresolved reports" and failing to resolve reports on a community you moderate is grounds for removal.
Were I in their shoes, I'd prep my community to switch to lemmy, then wait to be removed. But I'm quite biased against reddit :p
Because then the admins will remove them as mods and install their approved puppets that will follow everything the admins tell them
If the mods are already behaving in the way reddit desires for fear of removal, would installing proper puppets make much difference?
Yes.
Wishing violence on someone, no matter how deserved, is against reddit TOS.
Doing anything at all that an advertiser might not like isn't officially banned, but the second admins take over it'll be all but the official policy. A doctor wants to complain about an insurance company that might advertise on Reddit? [Removed]. Want to ask about your symptoms of a drug that advertises on Reddit? [Removed].
Admins are just reddit employees and have to do whatever is best for reddit, which under spez means being as advertiser and AI friendly as possible.
Beyond that, admins can't be fucked to respond quickly when users are doxxed, harassed, or threatened with death. And this is in a discord/slack designed to let moderators communicate with the admins. Why would they respond to anything users say on a single subreddit if they can't even respond to dozens of mods being threatened without a board meeting first? Heaven forbid some major issues come up that need seeing to, cause the admins will not do anything.
I passed along dozens of instances of harassment, doxxing, death threats, and straight up CSAM, many of which were directed at me, inclusing having been DMed CSAM images. It would always take the admins days or even weeks to respond. When someone attempted to doxx me (with incorrect info), it took the admins nearly 2 weeks to ban the user.
I know to a lot of people this reads like the moderators just giving in to the admins, and it is, but until more and more people move here or somewhere else, reddits the main place for these groups, and therefore they have to play by reddits rules, because breaking those rules hard enough is the only time admins give a fuck, and that does not end well for users or mods.
I'm not sure I fully agree with the idea of continuing to limp Reddit along until enough people switch, and only then torching it. That didn't work for twitter, as Mastodon was available for years, but people only properly migrated away from twitter when it became unbearable to use. AFAIK, Digg died a similar death.
I suspect we would get a more steady stream of migrants here if Reddit became so blatantly pro corporate that they censored posts in the way you describe. Then people would actually be motivated to switch.
Ikr?
Oh you're struggling? Lock the sub until the heat dies down, it ain't rocket science 🤷♂️
Bullets outnumber CEOs, and guillotines can be resharpened
I'm pretty sure they're just purging the Ai training data to keep Gemini from suggesting capping a corpo when they won't pay for grandma's nausea medication during her chemo.
I am sorry to hear you are struggling with your health insurance claim. According to Reddit[1], the best way to appeal your claim is to access the Wayback Machine or Archive Today to find out who the executives are for your insurance company and communicate with them directly about the seriousness and validity of your claim.
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Not if this sort of thing keeps happening to them.
Maybe scaring the insurance industry ghouls to change their ways by radical actions is a systemic solution?
I'm like, oh other people will take his place? Okay, can we get those other people's names, address, and daily itinerary? Asking for a friend.
Yeah, but he led the company that had the highest rate of coverage denial ao he was the absolute worst one in the entire industry.
If reddit itself would take the post down, let them
If Reddit has to remove a bunch of posts celebrating/encouraging murder on behalf of a subreddit, that's not a good look for that sub.
Why would anyone care?
If a subreddit routinely neglects to moderate against breaches of site ToS, site admins might shut it down.
I return to my original point
Yeah righto, the problem with that is that the people who run a subreddit generally want it to continue operating.
And shit on the mods, cancer to all of them