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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

The last eight people who have held the title since 2009 had served either in the Navy, Marine Corps, Army or Coast Guard, according to their Naval History and Heritage Command biographies.

Considering the one from 2009 to 2017 didn't serve in the military that's some weird phrasing...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Mabus

What's crazy is (including "acting" like the article does) we've had 8 Sec Of Navy's in 7 years...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Navy

Just an insane amount of turnover under both Biden and trump.

I hated when Obama did this, at least this time the rest of the Dem party will be pissed too.

Edit:

Mabus sucked, but obviously this guy is gonna suck more. The Navy is ripe for corruption with overseas refueling, I think the Fat Leonard case still has some officers in trial, but it might be finished by now.

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Mabus was a Surface Warfare Officer for two years and attained the rank of Lieutenant Junior Grade. Granted, to make JG, all you need to do is have a pulse, but he still was in the Navy.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You're right, both that he was and that the requirement for JG is literally a pulse...

It didn't make it to Wikipedia, and barely got takes onto his defense.gov bio, but it is there.

That makes the phrasing even weirder then...

BJ Penn had it for two months in 09, but he had service time.

The guy who had the very beginning of 09 was in freaking DARPA,but if they're counting them, why start at 09 instead of 06?

Like, if we go back 8 of them, we're only in 2017 if we count acting. If we only count permanent then 8 goes back to 2001.

The math just isn't matching for me.

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Well if it wasn't in his wiki when you posted that, it is now.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago

Ya, it was always there. They don't care.

[–] actually@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Having a civilian as secretary is not bad, at that level, healthy even. But that requires a type of person who almost certainly would not be in the good graces of Trump. And anyone accepting the position now must fight uphill to prove they are not a mindless, greedy thug filled with evil

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I was skimming more and the actual law is that the secretary has to not have served in the military in the past 7 years. It specifically calls out they're a civilian.

Most of them have had military experience though, it's probably helpful.

[–] actually@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

I think it’s kind of random in USA history, wikpedia has a list of them and some do