this post was submitted on 30 Oct 2024
1277 points (97.4% liked)
Political Memes
5611 readers
874 users here now
Welcome to politcal memes!
These are our rules:
Be civil
Jokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.
No misinformation
Don’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.
Posts should be memes
Random pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.
No bots, spam or self-promotion
Follow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
glances at the state of European politics
How can you talk shit when Kier Starmer, Emanuel Macron, and Olaf Schultz are your idea of good-enough liberal compromise? And why do these liberal centrists (in the US and Europe both) keep producing larger and larger factions of popular fascist movements?
Liberals have made "perfect" synonymous with "good". Candidates like Corbyn and Melancion were the compromise, but y'all couldn't resist selling your democracies down the river for another decade of dirt cheap imports.
Not at all. In general the political climate is terrible. I can talk shit because I'm not afraid to do so. You see I do have rights, and that's something Americans are about to lose. That worries me.
And chosing between two evils is a bad position to be in, but they can still chose. What I don't understand is why the American people are so reluctant to choose for freedom under democracy, albeit shabby, over a dictatorship with a senile maniac that hasn't worked a day in his life. He's everything parents warn children about, yet the parents still chose him. Wtf?
I've seen this dogged insistence that Americans have rights but an election can take them away and all I can think of is the Iraq War Protesters, the OWS protesters, the Climate Change protesters, the Pro-Choice activists, LGBT activists, and the anti-Genocide protesters who have all seen police action against them.
You're not about to lose your rights. You're simply going to be subjected to a level of enforcement traditionally reserved for ethnic, religious, social minorities, labor organizers, and other broadly defined "Leftists".
The choice is an illusion in a system as degraded as the American democracy. Even at the most superficial level, you're telling people they have a choice of who to support when the Electoral College clearly denies them this privilege. If you live in Texas, you'll be counted as a Trump supporter whether you are or not. If you live in California, you're counted to Harris. The swing states are exactly that - all or nothing. Individual voices don't matter.
And that's before you get into the decades of legalized disenfranchisement, vote caging, and voter intimidation that have shaped the results in states like Florida, Ohio, and North Carolina. Florida has the single largest number of disenfranchised voters - 1.1M people, roughly 1 in 14 eligible voters. They are legally disqualified from casting a ballot in the state, overwhelmingly biased against ethnicity. Then you've got places like DC and Puerto Rico, which are fully disenfranchised at the Congressional level and only tangentially represented in the EC, via ex-pat voters and the 23rd amendment.
This isn't lesser of two evils, its a ratchet. Dems backstop progress with legalistic delays and poor leadership. GOPs ram ahead in direct violation of law and precedent, then face no consequences other than a brief sabbatical from high office during wave years. The end result is a consistent march towards fascism.