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Arnold Schwarzenegger endorses Kamala Harris: ‘I will always be an American before I am a Republican’
(www.theguardian.com)
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Lmao what? The fact that you're trying to muddy the waters over Nunez's son stabbing a man to death by deliberately misunderstanding the case makes this "nuanced"?
I can do that too: Rod Blagojevich actually wasn't super corrupt because he accidentally tripped and fell on a button that made him try to sell Obama's Senate seat. He was impeached unanimously, but I think he actually just appointed Roland Burris because Burris was such a great politician. His crime wasn't unambiguous, and the fact that Trump pardoned him means that there's obviously more to the story than you're letting on. Please come discuss these points with me that I may argue you pointing out how stupid and wrong what I've said is itself constitutes nuance.
I see that you won't even bother trying to address the initial point of my reply so I'm done here. I'm not trying to debate the merits of a case that never even went to trial, when the whole point of my reply was to simply point out that you were being outrageously hyperbolic
Address the actual complaint or gtfo.
You were the one trying to muddy the waters by saying there was "a lot to question about that plea agreement" and then going on to misrepresent the facts surrounding the corruption (such as falsely insisting that Schwarzenegger and Nunez weren't actually political cronies), not me.
It was a minor aside. It was very obviously not the primary point of my reply. You chose to fixate on it. And you continue to do so. Seriously done with you now, chief. 👋
Just a casual, minor aside of throwing the credibility of the conviction itself into question and then the casual, minor aside of falsely suggesting they aren't cronies. 💀
I guess it's harder for you to make the argument this wasn't patently corrupt when I actually challenge you on falsehoods completely misconstruing the very nature of the corruption, huh? You'd prefer I just ignore those and let them slip by, which like I get. I'd prefer it too if every game of soccer I played had no opposing goalie, but you don't need to be so transparently salty about wanting and failing to pilot the conversation away from pointing out your BS.
Arnold absolutely sucks for what he did, I have long pointed to it as one example of why he shouldn't be so glorified for not being completely insane as other Republicans.
That said, the other poster you're talking to is in the right here, you're ignoring the point entirely.
Do you stand by YOUR comment on how crooked this is, or do you admit that you exaggerated how corrupt these people are conpared to the worst of people we know to have been corrupt?
Just answering this question. A yes i exagerated or no this is actually as bad as corruption gets are great answers if you need examples to borrow