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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

guest star of recent sneers kache is at it again

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Update: The QRTs are mainly sneering, but this one's particularly good

EDIT: Against my better judgment, I'm letting another sidenote come out:

If you wanna encourage people to drop the master/slave naming scheme, this guy probably gave you a good bit of ammo. Changing a random naming scheme is a pretty low-priority task under most circumstances, but it gets a lot more tempting when it lets you distance yourself from people like this

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I found the git master branch naming controversy a bit misguided, since to my mind the analogy was more "master copy" or "master recording" than "master of a slave". This isn't IDE. Who names their VCS branch "slave"?

Well, I guess that guy does.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

the thing is that the git branch naming was only one of the places among many where this was changed, and in many databases (and often other server-subsystem architectures) master/slave terminology was quite present. iirc there are still some that stick by it today (mostly out of direct choice by project maintainers)

it’s the same thing as whitelist/blacklist, vs allowlist/denylist (or others) - when there’s bad shit linked in baggage, and the cost of changing it (by habit and choice) isn’t all that much, there’s not really any reason to hold by the the old loaded shit

harm reduction comes in many forms

Yeah. I remember when the company I used to work for switched our style guide to allowlist/denylist and apart from That One Guy the overall reaction was a big "eh? sure, whatever". Nobody is out here pretending that this kind of change is going to completely end racism or even that it's going to have a major impact, but past a certain point continuing to casually throw the memory of chattel slavery around is just cringe.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

Note that I was specifically talking about branch names in Git, where it's debatable if the default name "master" even originated from the master/slave nomenclature.

The problematic nature of the term is a lot more evident in other contexts where a counterpart of the "master" is in fact called a "slave". Whether that's reason enough to change the names in any particular instance is not something I'll comment on.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

I found the git master branch naming controversy a bit misguided, since to my mind the analogy was more “master copy” or “master recording” than “master of a slave”. This isn’t IDE. Who names their VCS branch “slave”?

In a better world, this would've probably been a solid argument for letting the master/slave naming convention stick around. We don't live in a better world.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This guy would be a lot happier if someone had given him a pound of weed when he was 12 then introduced him to college football fandom.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago

Dude is about 3 years too late but I guess it's always 8 o'clock in the outrage store.

For reference, HN went wild on this submission from a pretty obvious 4chan troll (the self-described "Black developer" just so happened to include references to a Stormfront post (since removed)):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26487854

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don't drink and tweet people.

E: my reaction to the people saying 'it is bait'

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

just imagine the kinda thinking that goes into even "I can make this post for fun, that'll be a gas"