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He then ends up suggesting the reason they don't like Harris is because she's a woman -

“Because part of it makes me think – and I’m speaking to men directly – part of it makes me think that, well, you just aren’t feeling the idea of having a woman as president, and you’re coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for that.”

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So who you gonna vote for? Or you gonna sit on your ass and let the angry betrayed women carry the whole load?

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When people interpet your intent to vote for someone as an endorsement, but the candidate is un-endorseable, the only reasonable response to this question is "none of your fucking business"

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Okay keep your endorsement to yourself but look around at all the women who Trump and McConnell raped by packing the Court and remember, it was voters who "just couldn't quite trust Hillary" who made that happen. Nobody will ever be good enough for you, so you would rather we fall to the Nazis.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hillary lost because she openly mocked and derided the people she needed to vote for her, marginalized people who had real needs that weren't being met by her policy proposals and who were urging her to take more progressive stances.

so you would rather we fall to the Nazis

Better to fall to the nazis fighting them than welcome them to the table. Fuck the Cheney's, and fuck the democrats for proudly welcoming them into their coalition and then condescending to voters who rightfully see them as war-mongering demons.

Democrats will lose if they keep daring people not to vote for them rather than addressing the interests of their constituents. It is the single worst campaign strategy I've ever seen, and it amazes me that it isn't even the first time they've decided to fuck themselves in the ass with it.

[–] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Democrats are directly responsible for 3 of the current conservative justices that took away women's rights. Hillary's hubris and arrogance caused her to lose.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

And here I thought it was not having the needed amount of votes that caused her to lose.

I’m sick of people blaming Hillary‘s campaign for all the horrible shit that ensued afterwards. Candidates campaign because it is in their best interest to do so, but at the end of the day, this is our government. It’s our job as citizens to educate ourselves on the candidates, the voting system, and the stakes of the election. We should be figuring out who best to vote for, whether they are good at campaigning or not.

So, while Hillary might have won with a better campaign, the blame for Trump getting into power firmly rests with the voting public. We knew what kind of person Trump was before he was elected, and we knew there was a vacant Supreme Court seat.

Don’t blame it on the fact that people weren’t manipulated well enough by a giant ad campaign.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This race is practically a replay of 2016.

[–] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago

Dems never learn from their mistakes, because they never take accountability for their actions. Always blaming someone else for their failures

[–] archomrade@midwest.social -1 points 1 month ago

With none of the benefit of hindsight, it seems.