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When I first joined this community I saw it as a respite from reddit where I was free to chill with people without being constantly expected to debate or defend arguments or anything. Just a forum where people are nice.

Lately though it seems every active comment section is filled to the brim with, to be frank, obnoxious people who want nothing more than to fight with you about everything you say. I think they're known as "debate bros."

I'm not saying debate shouldn't be happening but to be honest it's disappointing seeing it be the only thing occurring. I've tried contributing in other fashions but have been met multiple times with people trying to start arguments with me about things or get me to defend "points" that I didn't make. This in particular has been very annoying. I've reported every instance of this due to it not contributing but I feel as if that's not helping.

I like talking to people I disagree with. I like conversing with differing opinions. But I feel alone in that this isn't the only thing I want to do on a forum.

Again, I'm not trying to definitively say we shouldn't debate at all, but just pointing out how prevalent it seems to be. Id like to just converse with people without being expected to make and defend points. I feel like that's a major thing we should've left on Reddit.

If people want to debate then they can do that. I just dislike that it appears to become the base-level expectation for the instance.

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[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So, I gather from what you've said that said argument is about you refusing to vote against Republicans and their actions, thus abandoning minorities across the country?

[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think this is an appropriate reply right now considering they are already complaining about having to argue about it.

[–] NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

I completely agree. I said what I said. I don’t need to defend anything in another space.

Also my votes are none of anyone’s business which is why I left it out.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's just a funny situation where they are the terrible person complaining about others calling them out on the terrible things they say on the Fediverse.

It has nothing to do with toxicity at all, but just others holding them accountable.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

You can hold others accountable without resorting to calling them a terrible person.

[–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Attack the argument NOT THE PERSON.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I did with my original reply up there. And even in my reply after that, I pointed out that the "terrible" on the person is because of the terrible things they say.

[–] NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck you. You’re the terrible person for making false assumptions and accusations at a complete stranger. Go fuck yourself.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

See, that's far more toxic than anything I said.

[–] NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. I stand by what I said.

[–] nicktron@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

You are not a good person.

[–] snowbell@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Transgender person here, please do not use me as an excuse to berate people for refusing to vote Democrat. I'm right in OP's boat on this one.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Hence why I said minorities in general, of which I am also one. Speaking for myself alone.

[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

This is a straw man argument. You are voting democrat even though they are corporate backed and paid for. So that means you don’t care about workers and are a capitalist corporate shill, right?

Just like you have a reason to vote democrat even if they do things you don’t agree with, others have the same rights to vote for parties even if they don’t align with all the policies of the party.

Stop debating anywhere and everywhere trying to convert people to your cost. There is a time and place for everything. Guerilla debating does more harm than good. Example: this post.