After reading how Graphene an Murena are fighting over social medial like schoolgirls fighting for a boyfriend, I felt like coming back to Stock OS lol
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Yes at this point I think I can agree with all you are saying and I don't feel there is anything I can add. Actually the symptom of a lack of a social need being met is something you gave me to think about.
Thank you for debate, have a nice day :)
First of all thanks for the correction, English is not my first language, I appreciate it.
So... Yesterday in my country in a local forum someone asked regarding the tariffs, what should we do? Are we going to boycott the US? The general consensus more or less was that yes, that's what we should do. Then the excuses arrived, but I'm not going to give up Amazon, nor Google, nor Meta, how am I going to give up this or that? Then other person gave them good alternatives and he was totally ignored. I didn't feel that this was a social need, more like convenience, laziness and apathy. I mean, yeah I can kind of agree with you, there are some things I can't give up exactly because a social need, if I give up one service I get isolated, and yeah when I get depressed I eat sweets when I shouldn't... But what about the rest?
Anyway I am no one to tell you how you should live, nor I do have the absolute truth whatever that is, all I am saying is that if we buy into the bullshit (not a little, I wish it was just a little) then bullshit is what we have, and yeah we can bitch all you want about the bullshit we are in, we change or nothing will change. What did you mean when you said "change from within"? Isn't exactly what I am talking about?
And to be honest I didn't understand what you meant by this social need. Do we really need to buy all the services the rich offer us as a bait to be happy and content? I am aware that we have some needs to function in society, I'm using them all the time, but I couldn't use it as an excuse to the extreme bullshit we are in, my colleagues in my last job complained all the time about the stress and long hours in the job and then they spent all their money in "stuff". Is this the social need? They could work in a low stress job for less money if they didn't spend so much money in Amazon for things that nobody really needs. But instead they were working harder to get more money to get more stuff to buy, it was madness from my point of view not a social need.
I don't know that's why I asked first but they responded with a meme instead.
But I was talking more in general and not about him or her specifically, I'm starting to get tired about the "billionaires this and billionaires that" while posting it in an iPhone 19 and browsing amazon next for the next rubbish to buy, many people do this.
I just wish we could talk about how we really got in this mess collectively instead of blaming because no one is free of blame (not even myself obviously), we can only fix our mistakes if we start by accepting them.
Are these Neoni-koins crypto? I made my research and I have my whole life savings ready to invest.
But how do we reduce consumption? I believe that for whatever mess we are in we have to start by blaming ourselves, not just our personal problems. Blaming the other won't change anything. I blamed myself of all the world problems and I reduced my consumption to aprox a 90%, I started to use my car only when really needed, started to buy locally, cancelled all my shit and even went vegan, and I feel that I still could do better, sorry for the "holier than thou", I'm trying to give an example.
I don't really know how you got that my conclusion was to make someone stop existing. For a start you can't make stop existing something it doesn't exist yet. I also don't believe we should literally stop having children, but be more mindful of what we do, and that our mindset is the problem. The "I want this, I want that". But my other point was, do we really need more population when we do not have our shit together? We don't even understand what the problem is. We will consume to our extinction while blaming the other.
Self-cherishing attitude is the cause of all our problems not just global collapse.
Industrial scale cattle farming is a must to support the current demand and it exists because we can't care enough to renounce the pleasure of eating meat. It is always me, me and me. And the problem is always because the other, the other and the other.
Of course we can sustain a lot of more of people, but not with our mindset.
There are already 8 billion humans, countries have destroyed 80-90% of their forests to put plantations to feed animals to feed ourselves and our children while we waste a big chunk of it. Not to talk about the tons of rubbish we create in the process and a pollution that may already doomed us.
And we want more and more. When will be enough? At 20 billion? Or do we make infinite children? Maybe actually stopping having children before it's too late is the essential for the survival of our species.
And for the continued functioned of society and the economy? Yeah you are right here. But again when will be enough? At 20 billion? Or do we make infinite children for infinite continuation of the economy? The economy is slowly collapsing already.
lol I was literally FOMOing on this, and it's so true that I don't even need the legendary plan. Thank you for bringing me back to reality.
And nothing will happen, nobody cares enough anymore, the worst is that many people bought the Chinese propaganda and the genocide will continue until their extinction (in Tibet at least).