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[–] fool@programming.dev 12 points 6 months ago

Merry chrisatms

[–] fool@programming.dev 9 points 6 months ago

I love all the pleasantly deep answers in this thread.

For my input: I'm everything I ever was, all at once.

You know how lenses refract over each other at the optometrist? Or how colors combine when you stack transparent cups in the washer? That's me. I have parts from everyone I ever met, and parts from everyone I ever was. There's no mask, even if I focus on one part of the mosaic in a meeting vs. another when I nerd out w/ a buddy -- it's all equally me.

I'm not Shrek though. Onions have layers, but I'm prismatic glass, chips and dips and all.

[–] fool@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I disagree with this sentiment; I'm inclined to believe that AI has actually lowered the bar for meaning.

Before AI, typically only skilled artists drew pictures for the web. But now that AI is making art that's less meaningful than crayon pictures, there's the growing sentiment of

I'd rather see a crayon picture than AI slop.

which could actually mean more people have the ability to go on and artify.

Of course this is anecdotal; it's the reason I started drawing again :)

[–] fool@programming.dev 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

NOOOOOO HOW DID I GET SHITTYMORPHED ON LEMMY

[–] fool@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago

Only if there's too many is it a worry. I use it now and then bc I LOVE things in threes (I'm not Ben Affleck I swear), but...

in the above, the tricolon bonanza is insane -- how can you fit that many in such a short text?

You probably don't need to cut down :)

[–] fool@programming.dev 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Sorry for the wall of text again c:

(CLICK HERE FOR BIG WALL)

AI text as a whole is usually structured, neutral-positive to positive shallowness. It's called slop because it's easy to make a lot of substanceless, nutrientless goo. One common structure is

Introduction

Since the dawn of time, ethics has been important.

AI Structure: Hidden Secrets Revealed

  1. Being considerate: Being considerate can help relationships.
  2. This structure: is untrustworthy. Be suspicious when you see it.
  3. Lots of broad statements: that don't say anything—often with em-dashes.

Conclusion

In conclusion, while ethics can be hard, it is important to follow your organizations guidelines. Remember, ethics isn't just about safety, but about the human spirit.

What do we spot? Sets of three, largely perfect/riskless formal grammar (grammar perfection is not inhuman -- but a human might, say, take the informal risk of using lotsa parentheses (me...)), uncreative colon titles, SEO-style intros and conclusions, an odd corporate-style ethics hangup, em-dashes (the long —), and some of the stuff in that reddit link I mentioned are often giveaways.

Here's some examples in the wild:

  • Playing Dumb: How Arthur Schopenhauer Explains the Benefits of Feigned Ignorance. PeopleAndMedia. has useless headings and the colon structure I mentioned. There's also phrases like "Let's delve" and "unexpected advantage" -- ChatGPT likes pretending to be unconventional and has specific diction tics like "Here's to a bright future!" One interesting thing is that the article uses some block quotes and links -- this is rare for AI.

  • Why is PHP Used. robots.net. This is from a "slop site", one that is being overrun by AI articles. Don't read the whole thing, it's too long. Skim first. See how many paragraphs start with words like "additionally", "moreover", "furthermore", like a grade school English lit student? Furthermore (lol), look at the reasonings used:

    The size of the PHP developer community is a testament to the language’s popularity and longevity.

    PHP boasts a large and vibrant developer community that plays a pivotal role in its continued success and widespread adoption.

    ChatGPT-esque vocabulary is used (this is something you unfortunately get a feel for), and the reasoning isn't very committal. Instead of evaluating some specific event deeper, the article just lists technologies and says stuff like "PHP has comprehensive and well-maintained documentation, providing in-depth explanations, examples, and guides." So what if there's docs? Everyone has documentation. Name something PHP docs do better or worse. Look at this paragraph (SKIM IT, don't read deeply):

    CodeIgniter is known for its simplicity and speed. It is a lightweight framework that prioritizes performance and efficiency. CodeIgniter’s small footprint makes it suitable for small to medium-sized projects where speed is crucial. It provides essential features and a straightforward structure that allows developers to build applications quickly and efficiently.

    It doesn't actually SAY ANYTHING despite its length. The paragraph can be compressed to: "CodeIgniter has a light footprint". It doesn't even say whether we're talking about comparative speed, memory usage, or startup time. It's like they paid someone (openAI) to pad word count on the ensmallening I mentioned.

Before reading something, check the date. If it's after 2020, skims to be too long and not very deep, and has too many GPT tics (tricolons, vocab like "tapestry/delve", the SEO shit structure), then it's AI slop. Some readers actively avoid post-2020 articles but I can't relate.

edit: clarified that perfect grammar is humanly doable, but GPT-style riskless formal grammar is still distinct from grammatical human text

[–] fool@programming.dev 77 points 6 months ago (13 children)

Made with no blood, no sweat, and no tears in fucking GNU's Not Unix Image Manipulation Program.

[–] fool@programming.dev 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

AI structure can be pretty obvious if you know which English weapons it loves to spam. Let's walk it through (sorry for the wall of text lmfao):

I skip the image because the chimney mistake and overdone shading is obvious

  1. Corporate style.
    • "In these unpredictable and often challenging times" -- This is very corporate. How many messages have you seen like this during the pandemic? Buuut just because it's soulless doesn't mean it's AI, but I wouldn't expect it from a community of this archetype. (ai suspicion +1)
  2. Tricolons, especially ascending. (source)
    • This is something ChatGPT loves. Essentially, there are three "things" in a sentence, sometimes clauses. Sometimes each one is larger than the last (ascending), e.g. "I honed my skills in research, collaboration, and problem-solving." And it appears a lot even in this short snippet
    • "...you can step back, breathe, and find some calm amidst the chaos". The third element is longer. Ascension spotted. (ai suspicion +2)
    • "May your days be filled with joy, your systems stay secure, and your kernels remain stable." Elements are successively syllabically longer. Ascension spotted. (ai suspicion +2)
    • "Take the opportunity to reconnect, reflect, and perhaps even find inspiration for the year ahead." Third element is longer. Ascension spotted. How funny -- three tricolons! Three three three three (ai suspicion +2)
  3. Obsession with superficial positivity.
    • ChatGPT, even when making stories about evil, is very partial to love, friendship, joy, making up, peace, tranquility, (pseudo) "unconventional" friendship. Excessive meaningless positivity is an archetype too, though ChatGPT's factgivings are usually neutral-positive.
    • "more important than ever to pause and share heartfelt wishes" Share wishes. Would a human on c/linux say something like that without elaborating further about wishing for something, perhaps death to Windows users? (ai suspicion +1)
    • "moment of peace" "find some calm" "positivity" "open-source spirit" but they never talk deeper, again. (ai suspicion +1)

So yeah this is at least 90% OpenAI. Too fuckin' bad.

[–] fool@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago

Bad linked article. Judging by the amount of sets of three bullets

  • in: forms
  • like: these,

along with the "in conclusion" prepositions and not-very-useful-but-broad headings, it was written by AI. :(

Most online sources about this Schopenhauer suggestion seem to be either AI-generated, mildly superficial (i.e. basically only talks about Schopenhauer's mom calling him an annoying intellectual type), or MBA-manipulator-esque (e.g. Get Rich! 48 Laws of Power! Buy Today!)...

which is a bummer since scaling humility up and down can be a really useful instrument to get things done. Just be agreeably approachable, but be careful if you outshine others, especially if ego gets in the way. Idk, i wish there was a more compelling source for this

[–] fool@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

CRYPT-- oh, you mean how the nice tutorial peeps have affected us.

Vimjoyer has increased the adoption rate for flakes on NixOS. And also NixOS use in general.

Mental Outlaw has probably contributed to new Gentoo users, quoth the meme, but Gentoo is still a dying breed compared to its heyday in the early naughts.

Fireship has made people -- particularly CS students I believe -- more comfortable with trying out new programming languages. (The "I'll check out the Fireship video first" approach. But then again, ChatGPT has arguably had the same effect across undergraduates... that's a digression)

Asahi Lina's longform Rust dev work, while less of a network effect, has had its own substantial effects within the Asahi Linux "Linux on the M-series" sphere. I believe she also helped port a kind of anime mocap engine onto Linux, which could over the longterm boost the anime-nerd Linux-nerd center Venn diagram. But that's speculation.

edit:

In a broader perspective, with the combination of SteamOS and large YouTubers trying out Linux, Linux desktop adoption will probably increase more than it has now. I doubt it will pass 10% though with Linux's reputation (tech nerds, compile all day, games don't run, command line -- even though these are improving, it's hard to kick)

[–] fool@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Soooooooo! How'd the exam go?

[–] fool@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thank you! (˶ˆᗜˆ˵) ✧

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