WeirdGoesPro

Well they should consider making the implication clearer, because I honestly feel that the way it is stated will do more harm than good. If it is a birth strike aimed at abortion risks, then call it that.

I have supported women’s rights in every way I know how in my lifetime, but I can’t go along with this movement as it is currently stated—to me that suggests that they need to refine the messaging a little, or explain the desired outcome more clearly.

Short of shooting people, what step should the average man take beyond voting, protesting, donating, and holding other men in our circle accountable? Trump gained ground with women too.

That is reducing my point to the most inflammatory interpretation.

Some men have been very negatively impacted by the political climate of the last 10 years too. They have weathered a lot of “white man” blame while trying to be a force for good. They have voted as an ally, protested as an ally, and held their peers accountable. And now their partner cuts off physical affection.

A man doesn’t have to be a false ally for those realities to put him in a psychological place that will make him vulnerable to conservative manipulators. It opens the door to the question “how’s your liberalism working for you?”

Denial of physical affection is a real grievance, and outside of this protest, it is usually considered an issue that needs to be fixed in a relationship. Think hard before intentionally creating relationship issues to prove a political/moral point.

The movement is to deny sex, not specifically to deny pregnancy. If it was about that, then sterile men and women would be excluded from this movement, but there is no mention of that at all. It’s just “swear off men, swear off sex”.

I’m asking because you seem to be an ally. How would your partner withholding sex from you improve the national situation at all? How does lack of sex enhance your already current position of being a supportive ally? How does others knowing that your partner is denying you sex entice them to adopt your views as their own?

My point is that the people this is likely to be deployed against are not the ones causing the problem.

Looking up his address and going there could be premeditation for harassment or harm depending on how the series of events at the door transpired. It doesn’t matter if he is an alpha male or if she is in a wheelchair, it is reasonable to think that a stranger who has come to your home to confront you over internet posts may mean you harm.

That said, I don’t think he was justified in deploying pepper spray without at least verbally ordering her to leave the property. If he did that and she stayed though…then there isn’t going to be much legal defense available to her in many states.

I know that—I have pepper spray for self defense for that very reason, along with other weapons.

The issue is that you have to feel reasonably threatened still. For a gun, the bar is serious harm, and for pepper spray it can be a much milder threat such as approaching or violent words.

I just don’t see how “hello” is threatening before a verbal order to leave the property. That’s why I think the video is important—her attitude and stance will make a huge difference in how justified the response was.

Why risk it? Because human companionship can be an extremely rewarding thing.

People can find all sorts of reasons to shut themselves off and create walls to protect themselves from “what if”. I hope they are happy with their decision, but in my experience, that road is a one way ticket to loneliness, ineffectiveness, and resentful feelings.

Are you in a relationship?

This idea is so stupid, in my opinion. Liberal women are likely with liberal partners—they will be punishing their allies. Punishing allied men for things that other people have done is a good way to radicalize them into becoming republicans.

The more we solve our problems by withdrawing from each other and punishing each other, especially those who are not the direct cause of our problems, the more we exacerbate the division in this country.

The only people who should be withholding sex from loving partners when they would otherwise be interested are people who are sleeping with a Musk or a Trump. Everyone else is just causing more hurt with no positive outcome.

I hate Nick Fuentes and his content, but her story is suspicious. I find it very strange that she took it upon herself to learn where his house is, go there, and try to talk to the guy. If the roles were reversed, a MAGA supporter showing up at a liberal public figure’s home, I think people would interpret it as harassment.

That said, I don’t understand how this was a legal use of pepper spray. If she really only said “hello” and did not try to advance into the house, then I don’t think he could reasonably argue he felt threatened with bodily harm in any way.

That’s an issue for court to decide though. I imagine the truth lies in the full video.

Agree to disagree, I guess. In my opinion, it is echo chambers that are the biggest danger, and TV is a bigger echo chamber than the internet.

There are leftist and activist websites you can visit if you choose. Platforms like Facebook and YouTube have a diverse set of creators you can watch, even if they arent pushed by the algorithm. There is no major leftist or activist news organization on American television, and they tolerate no opposing viewpoints on their respective channels.