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"The election of Donald Trump has sparked a surge of interest in the United States in South Korea’s 4B movement, a radical feminist crusade that preaches the four B’s: bi-hon (no marriage), bi-yeonae (no dating), bi-sekseu (no sex) and bi-chulsan (no childbirth),” the Los Angeles Times reports.

“Since Nov. 5, there have been more than 500,000 Google searches for ‘4b movement,’ while on TikTok, Instagram and X, support for the cause has been trending among young women voters who are vowing to swear off men.”

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago (24 children)

I'm not following the logic here. The only thing I can see is it would drive a wedge between feminists and sympathetic men. Seems like the sort of thing that would only make sense to someone uninterested in men or withdrawing from the guy they are with.

If someone has a take I'm missing, I'm all ears. I'm married 15 years and I don't have a dog in the fight, so if I'm wrong just explain how.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (11 children)

I’m a sympathetic man and this makes total sense and I support them fully.

There is no wedge.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yes but it wouldn’t change my opinion. Because I don’t need to be getting my dick wet to support women.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

It's hilarious how much incel sympathy materializes on lemmy the very microsecond critical support starts involving the prospect of some deferred male orgasms.

Hint for those who don't get it - it's not about the sex. It's about sending a message.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’m asking because you seem to be an ally. How would your partner withholding sex from you improve the national situation at all? How does lack of sex enhance your already current position of being a supportive ally? How does others knowing that your partner is denying you sex entice them to adopt your views as their own?

My point is that the people this is likely to be deployed against are not the ones causing the problem.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If my partner were part of this movement she'd be breaking up with me entirely, not just withholding sex. But if she was withholding sex from me because of this there's not really anything I can do because I'm not going to force her to do it because I'm not an asshole. Plus I'm not with her just for sex so withholding sex wouldn't severely impact our relationship or my wanting to be an ally.

My point is that the people this is likely to be deployed against are not the ones causing the problem.

Maybe if the ones not causing the problem caused more problems for the ones causing the problem they would stop causing problems.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Short of shooting people, what step should the average man take beyond voting, protesting, donating, and holding other men in our circle accountable? Trump gained ground with women too.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Maybe not shooting. Maybe it's a swift kick in the nards. /s

Clearly all those things haven't been working, so now we need to be more radical. Hence these women taking this radical approach.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You didn’t answer my question about what allied men should do though.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Suck it up and deal with it. I guarantee it’s not as bad as what women are going through.

[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Fucking well said.

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