OpenStars

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[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, it is true - and extremely sad - that people on social media often immediately jump to the exact & opposite conclusion as is warranted from what I said, intentionally choosing to first misunderstand me and second to act upon that misunderstanding. But that is not fully on me, especially when I said one single sentence, that could have easily meant several possible things, and is thus at worst ambiguous and therefore neutral. You yourself did this, when you said that "your idea is not realy plausible" - i.e., not "if I understand you correctly, then I think that...", but your idea, singular, as in one, single, interpretation, with none other possible. This is, if I am not mistaken, known as the "fallacy of extremes" where if X is true then surely there is no possible way that Y could not also be true, where Y is the absolute most extreme version of X, e.g. I dislike X, therefore X is like unto Hitler.

And this is why conservatives dominate the internet. With liberals choosing to eat their own, we have to watch out for attacks from both sides, rather than merely the opposition.

But if you truly were curious what I meant... you could have simply asked? Instead, you told, and despite being wrong, doubled down on it again, shifting the topic ever so slightly so as to maintain a righteous-sounding tone. Well, congrats I suppose, b/c your response did get the same number of upvotes with fewer downvotes (btw I never downvoted you) so... I guess you "won"? But let's face facts shall we? We both lost here, by allowing the conversation to devolve to this level. I mean that somehow what is - or rather, at least might be - happening to immigrants has been entirely lost from our back-and-forth exchange.

Kudos for at least caring about their plight though, that much I do applaud. I hope you think about this exchange and how you can improve your end, and I will promise to do the same.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I never said anything at all about "blaming" them, even if they did happen to be found at the center of this horrible situation. There are a lot of people who while sitting in the comfort of their mansions are very free to make a lot of choices - e.g. the Texas governor who sent them there under false pretenses - but recent immigrants, especially those fleeing persecution at home, are typically those least free and capable to avoid e.g. scams from a scummy landlord who may receive rent money in return for substandard housing where rats might be found.

Also the article talked about a change after 2020, and the influx of immigrants who were promised to go one place but then somehow ended up in a city not of their choosing seems to fit that criteria of something different than the two decades prior to that where infection rates were low.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website -3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Just like all the other Americans, right? (meme reference)

(but more seriously) The migrants are not used to that environment, and especially may fall into such traps more than people who know the area.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

I wonder how many are the migrants bussed there from Texas.

Edit: the article mentions that it is at least partly due to climate change as well.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago

I know in some places, like Texas, they seem to presume that you have a tall truck. Anyone with even a normal-height vehicle is thereby put at a severe disadvantage, especially when you try to see past the tall truck that has pulled way far FORWARD past the line, just to stop at a red light.

i.e., it is for measuring the size of one's dick, even (especially?) for women drivers. Learn to swing it proud, or else never get anywhere in those places!

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 31 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I heard that your mother is smaller than Egypt!

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 32 points 1 year ago

Sigh... too true.

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[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why... why is the world like this?

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

If someone told you to just use Windows on your computer, b/c it will take care of you, would you listen?

There is some truth to both statements, but in any capitalist society it behooves one to be aware, since many people and especially corporations will try to take advantage of ignorance.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago

In both suburban(+rural?) and city areas, I hear a lot more of people racing their cars and honking lately. I suppose it is how they deal with their stress, by ignoring the needs of others as they think only of themselves.

Even if the former stuff is not the actual and literal cause of sleeplessness, I do find it highly emblematic/symbolic. People get theirs and everyone else can deal with it as best they can, or not, whatevs.

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