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One could argue his actions for a bit are almost him trying not to get reelected, but yeah.

From the top there's also jiff, meaning hurry. With no more effort that puts me at two and you at one, which is more as I said. Mine are also direct homophones whereas yours relies on a certain practice that I have very different experience on the frequency of than you do.

So you recognize how exceptions work but deny they're a part of English construction? It's all just barely organized chaos? Where's whatever amount of organization coming from if not rules that are frequently excepted?

Yes, I'm well aware that other languages have much better structure. I'm not sure how that means English doesn't have rules. As a kid surely between you and some friend someone's house had fewer rules that were less enforced. Did that mean they didn't have any rules? Of course not!

I'll admit my falling out of favor statement isn't scientific. However if we take the other fella's assertation about it only being pronounced one way to begin with then it's very much falling out of favor.

Either way I'm not looking to start yet another branch of this argument. Least of all with someone who starts by saying English doesn't have rules with exceptions because French does.

You are deriding it. Is calling the chess piece a queen instead of a Vizir new? There's a much bigger gap between that change than this one? Or is it not new because that's what you know it as?

You can hide behind whatever you want, but your "told by the creator" rhetoric exposes you, even if you can't admit it to yourself.

It's not a compelling argument for you to change, again, because you've decided your way is the better one. Language, much like any other form of knowledge, has been changing, evolving, and updating with increasing speed for as long as this format has been around. I bet if you think you can figure out the connection.

It may be objectively true that one is the way the creator pronounced it but, as stated, it's also objectively true that originations don't dictate the pronunciations of words. I've given you plenty of ways that English does operate and how that lends itself to the hard g pronunciation as well as the fact that the so-called "new" pronunciation has been around nearly as long as the other one. Of course you could call that the "old" one, which is a more common counterpoint to new, yet you consistently choose "original". But I guess neither of us is listening, hmm?

Whatever. Take your ball and go home and keep telling yourself you don't care while telling everyone else you do with your own choices.

Or even just a board game night.

Maybe it just means boring guys. Drinking is a secondary activity, not a primary one.

That's kinda what the article says though

He's already unpopular with all his coworkers, no one will be excited to vote for Rafael from Canada.

I've never had the problem of not being understood.

You are either a uniquely spectacular communicator or a liar. It's not for me to say which. Regardless that's not the point. If you use the soft g sound and are not understood then, by your own explanation you are saying it wrong. That's something you need to contend with.

And regardless of how long the time period was

So no time requirement on archaic then?

there was a time when one guy spoke aloud the word when he invented it.

As is true of every word and yet I'm sure there are words you say differently than the first person. I'll bet you don't say the name of the element with the atomic number 13 the same way the man who discovered it does. Not to mention who knows how many words England took from France, mangled, and then got adjusted again in America. Who is the correct first person there, or does the first person only matter with this specific issue?

You can use the new pronunciation

I will as well many others.

as I have for 30+ years,

Me too! Still doesn't make yours right and mine wrong no matter how hard you try to deride it as "new" when it's barely newer than the format.

and I will continue to do so

I can't stop you. I can think you ridiculous for doing so but my suspicion that this would be the only reason I would think that of you diminishes with each response you send.

both are acceptable

Perhaps, but one seems to be falling out of favor. Just like a double space after a period or writing out words greater than ten but less than one hundred.

I could call it a moving picture and not be wrong, doesn't mean people wouldn't think me weird for doing so. I would have to deal with that the way you need to deal with what your choices cause people to think of you.

If you don't like it, that's a you problem.

Sure, but it won't stop me from making my own conclusions just like any other thing. The same is true for all of humanity to varying degrees.

There's a lot of deeper calculation to consider there. Is it a full production show, or someone's YouTube project? Is the podcast a single person, or many? If it's many are they in the same location? How much electricity is used to deliver your chosen medium to you?

Ultimately though none of that matters. If a podcast is what entertains you and makes your human condition livable that doesn't mean it does the same for Jack.

If electricity is such an issue than you using whatever electronic device to relay data to a server where my electronic device retrieved it from another server with who knows how many hops in between each for both of us is not a good use of your time.

If instead, as I suspect, you see value in harm reduction you need to realize that not everyone can reduce harm in the same way.

Right now, somewhere, someone is getting by because they can't wait for the next part of their favorite TV show or movie. Chances are you may even know one such person and not realize it. If that's gone their tenuous grasp on life may slip away. Even if you are ok with that, and I hope you're not, what positive impacts might that person have had that they will be unable to because they just can't take it anymore.

Life is hard. Stop trying to make people feel guilty for not living it the same way as you.

Probably. We need something to get through the day to day of being a person even before we get into all the horrible things all around the world. If we avoided everything we do that has unacceptable ramifications we'd pretty much have to crawl into a cave and die.

Use the modern tools you have access to to improve lives, not try and make others feel guilty for not having done enough.

people only started using the new pronunciation in the last 10-15.

As someone else pointed out already, this is untrue. While it may not have been popular in your circles, it definitely was in others. I've been saying it with a hard g as long as you have with a soft and I'm not the originator either.

English linguistics doesn't indicate anything at all.

They absolutely do. That's why you can sound out a word you've never seen before. You may not always be right when you do because they indicate, they don't define.

There are no rules about word construction or pronunciation.

There are, there are just exceptions. For example, an e at the end of the word is silent. I'm certain you can give me a word where it's not, but there are at least six in this paragraph alone where it is.

if you are understood then you have pronounced them correctly

In this logic if someone has been pronouncing a word all their life with a single pronunciation and travels to another location with a much different accent they can only now be pronouncing the word wrong.

If understanding is also the only metric then a hard g would still be preferable. Not only does a written g tend to make people lean to a hard g in my experience, but there's more words that could be mistaken for a soft g pronunciation.

You could argue that the original pronunciation is archaic,

Could I not argue that the original pronunciation has fallen out of favor?

the word itself is like 35 years old

Is there a time requirement for pronunciations to become archaic?

since there was only one acceptable pronunciation

Which isn't a time that existed, as we've established

who aren't likely to change.

Given your stance on language this is absolutely a you problem. If the rest of us collectively decided to understand it as only with a hard g, you would not be understood and therefore be pronouncing it wrong by your own logic.

Telling me not to is what makes English worse.

In your opinion. "Jiggawatt" is not a common English pronunciation outside of back to the future references at this point. People mostly settled on one over the other because it makes sense to pronounce a word a similar way to be more easily understood. It's not always the case, sure, but I think you'll find multiple pronunciations are the exception, not the rule. That's why you can come up with a good handful of such words, but you'll be using words with single pronunciations to talk about them.

You can find plenty of places where the claim is that it's a soft g because "choosey devs choose gif".

Where jiffy is used is irrelevant in that case.