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[–] thrawn21@lemmy.world 160 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Somehow, I can tolerate "jpheg" much easier than the forsaken "jif."

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 57 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Jif is where it's at. Peanut butter and image format? Yes please

[–] youngalfred@lemm.ee 26 points 11 months ago (6 children)

But Jif in Australia is a cleaning solution - can we have different pronunciations based on country?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

No need, it's Gif. Heathens be damned.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago (7 children)

The creators literally referenced this early on "choosy devs choose gif" like the jiff peanut butter commercial.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (11 children)

"Jif" is the original pronunciation. It is a pun, a play on the word "jif" short for "jiffy" meaning a short amount of time, as in "I'll send it to you in a gif". The newer pronunciation has become popular based on the fallacious reasoning that an acronym should be pronounced the same as its constituent words, which isn't a thing at all.

Language evolves, and both pronunciations are common enough to be considered acceptable. The only way to be wrong about how to pronounce the word is to claim one of the pronunciations is wrong.

[–] Doug@midwest.social 48 points 11 months ago (22 children)

Become popular? It's been popular roughly for the lifespan of the format. It's hardly language's fault the developer wanted to make an unfunny reference to a since forgotten peanut butter slogan.

On the other hand linguistics indicate a hard g sound with the construction of the word, constituent words aside. Plenty of four letter words starting with the gi combo have a hard g, including but not limited to gift which you may notice is very similarly constructed.

Whatever else the English language may throw at us, people appreciate consistency because we can make some sense of the world. A hard g is the consistent, predictable, sensible choice for the limited availability of those virtues English offers.

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[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 13 points 11 months ago

The approximately equal amount of upvotes and downvotes this comment received pretty much sums up the entire gif wars.

[–] STUPIDVIPGUY@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It's Gif and I don't care what anyone says

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 71 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's pronounced like yiff. I have spoken.

[–] Jivebunny@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Great, now search for communities with 'yiff' here on lemmy.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 57 points 11 months ago (8 children)

It's pronounced Gif, with a soft G as in Graphics.

I don't give a fuck what the idiot creator thinks it should be pronounced as, I'll die on this hill with my honor intact, surrounded by the corpses of everyone who thinks Jif is referring to anything but peanut butter.

[–] emorytaylor@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You say soft g when you mean hard g. Hard g's include GOAT, game, dragon, and gangster. And gif.

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[–] klemptor@lemmy.ml 56 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Helen is wearing socks with sandals. Helen don't give a single phuck.

[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Why use C and K in socks when they are pronounced the same?

New spelling: Sokks

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[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (14 children)

GIF is pronounced GIF not because the G stands for Graphical, but because it is its essence. It is what is calls out to be... Called.

And because it's not peanut butter.

And for the same reason, JPEG is pronounced JFEG not because the P stands for Photographic, but because that is the expression of its true essence.

I just didn't know it before today.

Justice for JΦEG!

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[–] GombeenSysadmin@feddit.uk 41 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Coming from the jif camp myself, I’d just like to point out it’s jay-phej.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Gif is obviously pronounced like the g's in 'gorgeous'

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[–] mathterdark@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

do I look like I know what a "JphEg" is?

I just want a picture of a got dang hot dog

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Honestly have never understood the gif debate. Words sometimes have multiple pronunciations. They're both fine.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 114 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How dare you not pick a side. Your neutrality sickens me.

[–] honeybadger1417@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago (3 children)

What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

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[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tell my wife I said "hello"

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Pick a side, you monster, you.

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[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 11 months ago (4 children)

GIF comes from the Old English word "gif," pronounced with a "y" sound.

So it's yif.

[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

kill it with fire

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 28 points 11 months ago

Git is now pronounced Jit.

JIT, as in the compiler architecture, is now pronounced Git.

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you have to spell it wrong to show how you pronounce it that should be a sighn

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[–] Advocado@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Guys.. guys... can we all just agree that it's pronounced gif and not gif?

[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

no you fuckwad it's pronounced gif

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[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The J is pronounced like the J in Jesus (Spanish pronunciation)

[–] Metatronz@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

We should just go ahead and pronounce all acronyms the way their unabbreviated forms’ first syllable letters are said. Just ignore we treat individual letters differently than the words they came from.

The CIA should sound like “see ya” Department of Transportation “Duht” Internal Revenue Service “ears”

Etc.

[–] asyncrosaurus@programming.dev 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

CIA is an initialism, not an acronym, since you pronounce each letter individually.

What you sir are suggesting is a complete erasure of initialisms, and I will not stand for it.

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Helen wears socks and sandals, and has divergent opinions. Helen needs to disappear in a landfill. Dispatching a team.

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[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All of this could be solved if English weren't a shit language with incoherent phonemes.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (17 children)

All this could be solved if people would accept that English changes over time and if defined by usage and understanding.

If people easily understand what I mean when I say gif then I have pronounced it correctly. Same as if people understand what I mean if I use "literally" to mean "figuratively" or spell "island" with an 's' despite it having no Latin roots.

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[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Next you’re telling me that LMFAO is called "ellem eff ayo" and not "le mfaao“

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[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Why don't you just pronounce it "gee-eye-eff"?

[–] Sombyr@lemmy.one 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's what I do. If somebody's gonna be pissed no matter how you pronounce it, might as well piss them all off equally.

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[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 13 points 11 months ago

I love how much absolute war is going on in this thread 🤣

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