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[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 155 points 6 months ago (2 children)

New AI technology promises to-

Hmm, where have I heard this before...

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I noped out as soon as I read that line.

[–] duckCityComplex@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The funny thing is AI is not really mentioned in the rest of the article. I don't think any of the new technology being introduced has anything to do with AI.

I guess "AI" is just a synonym for "new stuff" now.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

"AI" is the new "cloud"

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 4 points 6 months ago

I also promise, to pay you back, if you give me 10 million. No contractual obligations, but I totally promise!

[–] yukijoou@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 6 months ago

lmao. as if the ai was gonna have a better carbon footprint than the small plastic thing you replace every 5-10 years

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is there an AI technology that would help me not roll my eyes every time I hear AI? Can’t wait to add this to the garbage pile of popped bubbles next to NFT, blockchain and metaverse.

And I’m saying that as somebody who uses LLMs for work regularly, it is a useful tool, but the absolute delusional bullshit hype that imagines uses beyond its capabilities is exhausting.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

LLM is amazing tech, but holy fuck I can't wait to get out of this bubble. Some of these applications sound like when they put radium in butter in the 50's, because atomic energy was so hype.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Pretty much this. It's the radium craze, or the ozone craze, or a whole bunch of other fads - everything has to have AI/LLMs integrated in some way or it's not "interesting" to shareholders.

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 41 points 6 months ago (3 children)

“[Biometric confirmation is] a lot harder to compromise,”

And a lot easier to obtain by force

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 40 points 6 months ago

And a lot harder to alter when compromised.

[–] Slotos@feddit.nl 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Identification != Authentication

As obvious as this sounds, I’ve learned over the years that most people don’t understand what it means exactly.

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[–] kirklennon@kbin.social 32 points 6 months ago

“The industry is at a pivotal point - new technologies like Gen AI are rapidly shifting how we shop and manage our finances,” said Jack Forestell, Chief Product and Strategy Officer, Visa.

This is so cringey. I get that investors are randomly throwing cash at companies that talk up "generative AI," but it has nothing to do with anything they announced. Is it impossible to just be content with ridiculously sophisticated algorithms? Did someone hold a gun up to these people and demand they spit out some drivel that uses the buzzwords du jour?

Also, the headline feature was solved a decade ago when Apple Pay was released (and no, not by the janky predecessors of Apple Pay but specifically with the launch of Apple Pay, which everything was then changed to replicate). One device that can hold an entire wallet of cards and I can choose what to use right when I pay? Wow! So new.

[–] kalleboo@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Apple Pay/Google Pay already exists though?? What's new?

The last credit card I got, it took me like a month or two to bother unpacking the physical card since right after signup I could already add the virtual card to Apple Pay through the bank app and I just used that.

[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)

They’ll try to pull out of Apple Pay/Google Pay. At least that’s what Walmart did / is doing for the longest time in favor of their CurrenC or whatever thing in the US.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 25 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Wow we really are marching right to towards a centralised digital currency with no privacy and no actually ownership.

Remember back in the day when owning stock meant u owned the actually stocks. Well now u own the right to the stocks but if the platform ur trading on goes under welp out of luck guess u don't actually own them.

You will own nothing and be happy.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

What? That's not true. That's what SIPC is for. Just like if a bank goes under and it's FDIC insured, then you're fine.

https://robinhood.com/us/en/support/articles/how-youre-protected/

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[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If a title asks a question, the answer is always "no". No?

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[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Physical cards are harder to mess with then a phone. Physical cards are safer.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Can you explain that one to me? Anyone can take my card and use it, no one can take my phone and use it.. also I would notice my phone being gone sooner. Cards dont have to transfer to other devices and have to be readded with the banks verification. A card is as easy as beep and draw an X, or not even have to "sign".

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Until you get hit by a card skimmer. Encrypted NFC is safer than a physical card.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

and how, pray tell, do you think contactless cards work?

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[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

I haven't used a swipe in years. Virtually all contact less now.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I can't wait for the article saying how we're gonna solve world hunger with AI.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

The same way Israel is solving hunger with AI in Gaza.

Stalin once said, "Net cheloveka, net problemy" ("No person, no problem").

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I think someone already wrote a proposal for that.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Nobody goes hungry if the Human race is extinct.

lol for fucks sake this is so deeply stupid

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Am I missing something or is this the most vaguely written description? I don't get it. Something biometric is all I got out of it

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

Only when they stop trying to DRM lock phone pay to phones with locked bootloaders will I use phone pay

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Within a decade, you’ll likely access all of your cards with one credential and choose which payment method you’d like to use. That includes not just credit and debit cards, but also buy now, pay later options and direct payments from your bank account.

Visa is rolling out technology that will allow you to tap your card on your smart device to add it to your wallet. You’ll also be able to tap your card to your phone to confirm a transaction without needing to input any additional information.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Visa is rolling out technology that will allow you to tap your card on your smart device to add it to your wallet. You’ll also be able to tap your card to your phone to confirm a transaction without needing to input any additional information.

So like almost any tap to pay system?

Shit I was doing this stuff with GPay for years.

Within a decade, you’ll likely access all of your cards with one credential and choose which payment method you’d like to use. That includes not just credit and debit cards, but also buy now, pay later options and direct payments from your bank account.

This is just PayPal.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

So …. In a decade we’ll get ApplePay?

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago (7 children)

People still use physical cards? I haven’t been carrying any cards at all for so many years now.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

I'd be happy to use Google Wallet most of the time but Google is real worried about my custom ROM and won't allow me to.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There's a transaction limit on tap payments. Sometimes you need to chip or swipe when it's over $250 or something.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Assume you are not in US? Phone pay never caught on here in a big way unfortunately.

[–] ThePrivacyPolicy@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago

I did it when I was travelling to the US a few years back and the store clerk looked at me like I had two heads. It's so normal in Canada I never thought much of it, and here I was a celebrity in this store and everyone was just wow'd at the magic I'd done.

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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, too many places around here don’t get support Apple Pay and even less Google wallet. It’s definitely improved the last few years, probably 80%, but not 100%, so I’ve had to carry mine. So close I can’t wait!

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I'm getting old. Google keeps changing their touchless pay system and app. I got tired of switching after the third version of whatever Google is calling it now and gave up. Google pay, no Android pay, no Google wallet!

[–] Cheskaz@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I remember on reddit once someone from the US complaining about people assuming their bar had EFTPOS machines/pay wave saying "You wouldn't go to the grocery store without your wallet?!"

And me, in Australia just being like...but... I do? I almost never take my wallet with me to the grocery store...

(Although, because my student public transport card is the only thing I can't put on my phone, going out for drinks is one of the few times I'm almost guaranteed to have my wallet) (also because I want to have backups if something goes wrong while I'm inebriated)

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 3 points 6 months ago

I prefer carrying the plastic over carrying a tracking deivce everywhere with me. Then again, I'm one of those weirdos that also still carries cash.

(Note that I'm not saying you should ditch your phone—your priorities are doubtless different from mine—just that for me the tradeoff is not acceptable.)

[–] Skua@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

I don't feel comfortable putting that much important stuff in one thing. If I lose my phone or my wallet, the other can do a lot to help cover for it until I get a replacement

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Aren't metal cards better?

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 6 points 6 months ago

100%, but they cost the card companies a hell of a lot more to produce. Ergo, plastic.

[–] ____@infosec.pub 3 points 6 months ago

Cnet? Yeah, no.

The whole premise of how I use virtual cards is to separate - and block, as needed - charges from a given source.

If I use a physical card, it’s because I’m physically in a store and want to choose who charges my card, and when.

This is a step towards making it easier for random things to charge cards unexpectedly, and towards making it harder to dispute charges.

“You were there, per the thumb|face print. Therefore, you must have authorised it.”

That’s a sea change in how questionable charges/questionable disclaimers are handled.

Nope. I absolutely demand that protection, and if I lose it I’m taking my cash out of your bank ASAP and using that, suffering with change be damned.

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