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[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 49 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Why is Jupiter stopping us from getting asteroid hugs?

[–] illumrial@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Its gravitational pull moves asteroids away from the inner ring of planets.

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I should have added a sarcasm tag! My bad.

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Jupiter is fucking sick though, what a homie of a planet

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Asteroid hugs fucking hurt.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Jupiter says, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Its gravity sucks up all the little rockyboys headed inward

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Because the last big one it left through caused a stop to Earths space probes visiting it for like 66 million years.

[–] 5765313496@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He looks like a jovial fella.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Spending time with him is just a gas!

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Jupiter has a huge influence in the Solarsystem, the big gravitation of Jupiter and also the Sun can deflect most of the asteroids and Comets from the Earth orbit, but in certain circumstances can do the opposite and launch objects into Earth's orbit, depending on what angle they enter the system..

A good example is Apophis (∅~370 m), which is coming to visit us in 2029, although at quite a distance, but it will return in Abril 2036 and in this case, if it passes through a certain point there is a possibility that it will impact the Earth..

https://neal.fun/asteroid-launcher/

Simulate an impact where ever you want and see the consecuences scrolling down the results.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh, ok, it will target New York, the movies were right!

/s

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The White House is also a good target. Maybe also the Coronado Naval Base

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What a great & optimal design for actual humans to live and work - it would have been cheaper to make a square building with giant floors and a fraction of the windows (and far less natural light for inhabitants).
They prob left the remaining sides free to not infringe on MS Windows logo trademark.

And H designs are just somehow aesthetically unpleasing to me personally (for real).

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

optimal design for actual humans to live and work

And H designs are just somehow aesthetically unpleasing to me personally (for real).

Because I agree with those points I resigned it by flipping the edges:

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If we orient it south and try to distribute sunlight fairly we may get something like this:

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, I agree with that.l, cozy.

But lets make a compromise between design and art and make it:

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[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do we have ways/plans to prevent the potential hit or is it a "we will see" thing?

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There are several plans to avoid it, but it depends of several factors. We can avoid an impact if we know the exact position several Years before the supposed impact, if not, there is nothing we can do.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Childhood fear suddenly resurfaced.

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

Watch Don't Look Up. It's about an asteroid heading for earth in our current political climate

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There's a giant asteroid that's trying to hit us but is caught in Jupiter's orbit?

[–] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 35 points 11 months ago

Many. That's why it has so many moons

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Jupiter is our guardian angel. A big asteroid-deflecting gas giant might be a condition for complex life as we know it to evolve.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Every good solar systems has a big ol' Electrolux in common.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The trouble I have with statements like this is that “as we know it” is doing so much of the heavy lifting. We don’t have any experience with extraterrestrial life so it’s difficult to imagine how different or similar it may be to our own. We have a sample size of 1 with a completely unknown population. The best we can do right now look at line spectra and make inferences from organic chemistry. But that tells us very little about the potential forms life may take.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well yeah, but if you want to look for planets with life, it's probably a good idea to look the ones with conditions we know work.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Or at the very least, look at planets that have minimal global catastrophes

[–] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Trisolaris has left the chat

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I never got that. Surely, it's nearly as likely to divert an asteroid that would miss us to a course that would hit us as it is to do the opposite, right? The number that are actually trapped/impacted is a tiny percentage, and then the percentage of those that would have hit us must be a small percentage of that, is it really enough to be statistically significant?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Jupiter is doing a terrible job at protecting us from meteorites. Just ask the dinosaurs.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 24 points 11 months ago

I think he does alright, everyone has a bad day now and then. Can't blame him for slipping once

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I asked mine, she said "pretty bird?". She's right.

[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

That's a p good batting average tbh

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Explain to me, how is Jupiter deflecting a significant number of asteroids if it can only be in one place at any one time and its orbit is nearly 12 years long? Wouldn't asteroids have a huge window to get past it while it's on the other side of the sun?

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same thing for Earth, it can only be at one place at anytime, creating a huge window for any asteroid to missed earth. And when it missed, it must loop around and orbit the sun, multiple times, increasing the chance of it got caught in Jupiter's gravitational well, which is a pretty massive distance.

Orbital mechanic is crazy and make no sense for a peasant like me. You would think hitting the sun is the easiest thing but It's actually really hard to launch something into the sun. And would require an enormous energy to do so.

Ever wonder why don't we just launch our nuclear waste into the sun? I thought so too and do some Google search about it. It was an interesting read.

[–] BillyTheSkidMark@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I'm pretty sure I remember reading that Jupiter's "protector" status might also be overblown, as it actually sends asteroids into the inner solar system as well.

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I dont know for sure, but its likely to do with the fact that the asteroids orbit the sun too. Even if the asteroid is coming in on the other side of the sun from jupiter, it has to orbit the sun in order get there in the first, meaning there's a good chance it gets caught by jupiter before it can get close

[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

Stop right there, criminal scum! Nobody breaks the law on my watch! I'm confiscating your stolen goods. Now pay your fine or it's off to jail.