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[–] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 88 points 6 months ago (5 children)

If a woman can produce a baby in nine months, 9 women should be able to deliver a baby in one month.

[–] mortbobort@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

I was thinking exactly this lol

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 8 points 6 months ago

Literally just used that today in an argument lol. I just know execs are going to be mad we're running behind, I said it to suggest we do bring one person on now so they can be fully ramped up in a couple of months. Of course shot down by them

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 72 points 6 months ago (16 children)

9 women can’t deliver a baby in 1 month

[–] msbeta1421@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Feel like I have the same argument at work everyday. Some things just take a definitive time. 20 cooks won’t make a cake faster. Cooking that cake at 1000 degrees won’t make it faster. It will take the time it takes.

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I get your point... But I feel like people in this thread doesn't know how cake making works...

20 people will make a single cake faster. Not 20x faster, but faster. There are multiple part of the work that can be divided out to different people. Like you can have one person make batter while other makes icing. Fancy cakes actually do take multiple people to make simultaneously.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

*can make

20 people poorly setup or managed can fuck up 100 cakes in the time it took one person to just make one good cake too

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

20 cooks won't make 1 cake faster, but they sure as hell can cook 20 cakes at the same time!

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

As the meme goes

[–] clucose@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago

They can, but the babies are probably not gonna be fine.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Tell that to Apple

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 62 points 6 months ago (1 children)

lol whoever suggested that isn’t an engineer

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like an executive to me.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like the average consumer to me.

[–] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 months ago

Porque no los dos?

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Hiring 50 people. The most effective way to ensure a 3 month delay minimum in whatever it's you're trying to accomplish. More realistically between 9 and 18 months of delay. As training, project restructuring, familiarization, meetings and change management meetings take control of all the company's time, as restructuring always takes longer than pessimistic forecasts. Also known as the MBA induced death spiral.

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

I'll remember that. The MBA induced death spiral.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

The only way hiring people will help you develop faster is if either:

  • ramp up time is insignificant compared to project time and you don't hire so many you hit communication overhead.
  • you're hiring people to do all the other stuff the people working on the project were also doing. I don't think game devs typically have four systems in the maintenance lifecycle while they also develop new stuff, so that means you're hiring a few IT folks to wrangle the weird office issues programmers wander off and deal with, a sysadmin, and like, 45 lunch delivery people.

I've had the first one work once, when we had a year+ project timeline. Hired one person, took them a week to get started, a month to be properly contributing and maybe another to be up to speed. We were a four person team, so not much overhead.
The second one is the dream of every manager who finds themselves with a contractor budget. I have yet to see it work the way they want. The only way I've seen it work is when you tell an established team that some other teams maintenance project is now their maintenance project, and eat the sharp increase in timelines for that maintenance work.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention the layoffs as the game naturally dwindles from age.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

That's the interesting part. Massive layoffs is not a rare or extraneous result, it is the only possible result from the “hire 50 people now to get it done faster” mentality.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I mean. The diminishing returns on larger teams in software development is an absolutely proven idea. But according to what I'm reading, the game is made by one person, which is probably not the ideal size for a game of these characteristics that becomes a hit. Still, expanding a 1-person team is going to be a slow process no matter what, especially for a project like this and right after a successful launch.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, these projects done by one or two people could be better with a larger team, but it's definitely not a matter of hiring a big pile of people suddenly.

The ideal size is probably a couple dozen people, but scaling up to even that will take months since the one person currently in charge has to do a lot. And it'll almost fully pause work on the project for a while.

Cause if there's one person, they've got to find all the candidates, do all the hiring, then bring people up to speed.

The real problem is if the person who made it doesn't have the skills to manage even a small group of people.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lol, remember when everyone was hyped about Valheim? It still isn't finished. (Next biome is coming out soon though!)

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Should I take my hype off the shelf yet? I'm still in swamp.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm eager for the update, I love Valheim.

Always a good idea to start a new world with each big patch too, to make sure map generation occurs properly.

Swamp is where the game starts to get hard. You need to begin using your skills for parrying and dodge rolling.

Block at the perfect time for a parry, and jump while blocking to roll.

Rolling is super powerful. If you time it the same as a parry, you'll get invincibility frames.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Those damn deathsquitos have killed me too many times. I like the black forest.

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The deathsquitos are in the plains, you might've been in a world that generated one close to your black forest.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

right next to my swamp

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[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 months ago

"let him cook," says publisher

[–] card797@champserver.net 9 points 6 months ago

Since we've already bought the game. We can only be patient. I'm going to trust that it becomes a complete game in a few years.

[–] finthechat@kbin.social 8 points 6 months ago

Yeah for real, whoever said that is such an idiot. If he hired 5000 people instead they could get the work done 100 times faster.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 7 points 6 months ago

It's a great way to see who understands what working in IT is like. Whoever gave that advice is new to it.

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why am I saying multiple articles about this game every day?

Feels kind of forced at this point

[–] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Popular stuff is popular. I try not to post the same stuff too much but I think many people don't check every day. So I understand if it can get a bit much if you do check everyday. You wouldn't believe how much Baldurs Gate stuff even I got tired off and didn't bother posting. I think this is an interesting topic irrelevant of manor lords.

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It wasn't directed at you, friend. Many sources, but not the same sort of coverage you saw for HD2 etc, seems to be business or drama related rather than gameplay content related news.

Just feels weird 🤷

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 5 points 6 months ago

It's just the hot new release of the week. Gaming "journalism" sites need to get clicks for their ad money so they pump out shitty filler articles non-stop about whatever is popular. I mean, look at this shit. Before this it was Helldivers.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

And then when they lay those 50 people off in a year "Its just greed! They should be ashamed of themselves!"