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You may have heard of the “Countering Violent Extremism” program under DHS.

They’ve deployed the tactics used to fight terrorists against domestic citizens. For example, incels. When I posted on the web forum incels dot is, I didn’t know it was Department of Homeland Security operation against men who say they are romantically deprived. I didn’t know I was interacting with larping feds who encourage extremist rhetoric. Consequently I was put on a watchlist and am subject to intrusive monitoring.

I share a lot of my experience here.

https://twitter.com/WrongedIncel

My question is, is it far that the government is so targeting incels?

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[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 43 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Blaming others for all your problems is a strong risk factor for doing violence to others. Grow up, get a fucking grip, and you'll be fine.

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[–] pragmaOnce@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 29 points 1 year ago (34 children)

Have you LOOKED at the recent shooters?

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/26/1196195934/jacksonville-florida-dollar-store-shooting

White male, early 20s, lives with mom and dad, writing manifestos... Why SHOULDN'T the authorities be looking at incels?

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[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Pandoras_Can_Opener@mander.xyz 16 points 1 year ago

Thoughts and prayers!

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[–] Falmarri@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s not fair for the government to target anyone who hasn’t broken the law.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I think it's a little fair to monitor groups that border on the edge of committing crimes to make sure they don't. If someone is going around saying they're going to kill people, even if they haven't, I'd keep a fucking eye on them.

Considering how much rhetoric incels and well known terrorist groups share, it doesn't seem unreasonable why they are included on terrorist watch lists.

[–] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, the FBI has caught bombers by monitoring them before the bombers were able to break the law.

Secretely surveiled them right up until they dropped the duffel bag on the sidewalk.

My memory isn't great right now, but I think I recall reading somewhere that they catch over a hundred would-be bombers a year.

[–] MrHand@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

what does monitoring entail? it's one thing if the person is unaware of it but they also let the person know. that's putting them in prison without trial. also that incels = violent is charged up rhetoric meant to invalidate their perspective.

[–] MrHand@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

I haven't said I was going to kill people.

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