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Update, yes there are snipers:

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 247 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (13 children)

Nixon invades Cambodia, campuses across the country erupt in protest, armed troops deployed to deal with the unrest on an Ohio campus, guns pointed at students to intimidate them into dispersing...hmmm, can't remember what happened next...everything calmed down, I think, right?

Edit: Autocorrect betrayed me.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 117 points 6 months ago (1 children)

God blessed the students with omniscient insight, so they reverted their concerns and joined the army to establish democracy all over the world. An eagle, sounding like a red-tailed hawk, was heard screeching in the distance.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Eagles these days just don’t sound like they used too, back in my day they had this powerful screech that would pierce through even a swelling orchestral track to a movie.

Then the woke mob came for Eagles and now they sound lame.

I want to go back to those good times, that I imagine in my head, those times are great because I can remember whatever bullshit fantasy I want as “history” and just throw a tantrum and scream at anyone who challenges me on it.

Red tailed hawks? What are those? Are they like an Owl or something? Since when did people give a fuck about birds? They are so boring.

( /s )

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This summer I hear the drumming.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 175 points 6 months ago (28 children)

We're so different from those godless immoral Chinese communists, something like Tianenman Square would never happen here.

Lol.

Lmao, even.

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[–] ADonkeyBrainedFog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 136 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But don't worry guys! The first amendment guarantees a right to assemble. The police wouldn't ever do anything to infringe on our rights! If they were to do it, I'm sure there'd be a really sick folk song written about it or something

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 98 points 6 months ago (6 children)

The day Philadelphia bombed its own people: An oral history of a 1985 police bombing that changed the city forever.

On the evening of May 13, 1985, longstanding tensions between MOVE, a black liberation group, and the Philadelphia Police Department erupted horrifically. That night, the city of Philadelphia dropped a satchel bomb, a demolition device typically used in combat, laced with Tovex and C-4 explosives on the MOVE organization, who were living in a West Philadelphia rowhome known to be occupied by men, women, and children. It went up in unextinguished flames. Eleven people were killed, including five children and the founder of the organization. Sixty-one homes were destroyed, and more than 250 citizens were left homeless.

Folks familiar with this incident had a remarkably different take on the Waco siege and subsequent fire that resulted when the FBI surrounded David Koresh's church compound. Same with the Ruby Ridge US Marshal slaying of a white nationalist's wife and son, during an investigation into gun sales.

Then there's the assassination of Fred Hampton and Malcolm X, the police storming of the Occupy Wall Street camps in New York, the COINTELPRO operations that targeted anti-war movements during the Bush Administration, the incredibly violence by police in Ferguson and Baltimore during the BLM marches, police kidnappings in Portland, Seattle, Chicago, and LA during the George Floyd protests.

I got to personally witness the mass arrest of protesters in Houston, after they were surrounded and kettled in Discovery Green Park.

America is a cursed land. Something something maybe don't build your country on an ancient indian burial ground something something.

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[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

People love to hate it but the second amendment is also a thing. Now don't get me wong I don't want this to happen ever to anyone...but there was a time when strikers would shoot and be shot at on the reg.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_violence_in_the_United_States

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[–] TylerDurdenJunior@lemmy.ml 118 points 6 months ago

Remember that US intelligence services speculated in using snipers to kill "Occupy Wall Street" protesters on university campuses.

FBI coordinated with banks and universities to get information on students.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 108 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Should be treated like they are? Okay, so full outrage, comparisons to the Kent State massacre, and the administration facing reprisals and consequences for deploying snipers to intimidate, threaten, and potentially murder students.

We're treating them like they're snipers, Admin, you're welcome.

[–] seahorse@midwest.social 85 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Good. Update, they're snipers.

[–] foofiepie@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Aye thanks for this. The first pic was up for interpretation. Also WTF?

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (15 children)

If they should be treated like snipers, that means protesters should respond in kind:

Make smoke screens. Tires work best. Bicycle tire with gas will make thick black smoke making it hard for the spotter and sniper to see.

Force projection works both ways: make their advantages into disadvantages. Snipers are long range units, meaning they have to be away from what they are targeting. If you can create enough distractions they won't be able to see the forest from the trees.

All in Minecraft, of course.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

Yeah, you’re putting snipers on a university aimed at the students. That’s not the behavior of a government that values personal freedoms like speech and assembly.

Free speech on college campuses means they have to pay bigots to speak and allow disruption from religious protests by non students, but students get riot cops and snipers for protesting genocide

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[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 85 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Wtf... Cops in riot gear arresting students before 10pm, and fucking SNIPERS intimidating in a peaceful one night protest on a college campus. And a university spokesperson saying "demonstrators exercised their first amendment right for several hours and then were instructed to disperse" like yeah, that's enough first amendment right for you guys, go be quiet now.

Nope. Just nope. You are not free. Burn it all to the ground before it's too late or we're actually fucked.

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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 67 points 6 months ago (14 children)
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[–] Revonult@lemmy.world 61 points 6 months ago (5 children)

So not justifying this response, but they have snipers out for EVERY football game. I think it is standard practice for large gatherings. You can make your own opinions on this, but this isn't a unique thing.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 39 points 6 months ago (4 children)
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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 59 points 6 months ago (13 children)
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[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 57 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

As someone who's worked large events and closely with police or other big wig officials, I am consistently surprised at how people are surprised about how high profile event security works.

The amount of work that goes into keeping people safe regularly is monumental. You'd also be surprised at just how much hard targets don't get attacked when a limelight is cast on them compared to soft targets. It's violence prevention 101 and easily the most important.

If you see something, say something.

PDF warnings:

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/whats-next-soft-target-attacks

https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/DHS-Soft-Target-Crowded-Place-Security-Plan-Overview-052018-508_0.pdf

https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/fema_faith-communities_security-soft-targets-crowded-places.pdf

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 50 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Agreed, most of the responses here are ridiculous.

They bring snipers out anytime there's a big event or a major public figure. Michelle Obama visited the University of Akron when I was going there, they had snipers all over the place.

They're not bringing out snipers for some kind of perverted crowd control. It's almost definitely so if someone shows up with a gun and starts firing into the crowd all the protestors don't get shot.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Yep b3causr there's absolutely no difference in armed defense when the president or first lady is visiting and when students are protesting, none at all.

He'll might as well tell the students of tiananmen square that tanks are just a normal part of defence.

🤡

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (19 children)

Have you considered what would happen if an active shooter, consider one that's pro-Israel, showed up in that crowd and they didn't have a sniper?

Tell me you wouldn't be over here screaming "ACAB" when the cops are unable to get to the shooter (and have to risk firing through a crowd or do nothing) because there are hundreds of college students between where the cops are standing and where the active shooter is.

Having a sniper on the roof is in no way similar to a tank running someone over in the street. There is no practical application for a tank vs a civilian population. There is 100% a valid reason to use a highly skilled marksman to increase the odds that if something bad does happen, it's stopped quickly, and you can get EMTs to the injured parties.

Your position is offensively wrong.

EDIT: Minor edit to remove a swear and switch to textual emphasis.

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[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (3 children)

If you've ever been to a professional sporting event, you have almost certainly been at the business end of a rifle scope.

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 38 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Le sigh..... Time for another crosspost to a boring distopia.

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My God the bootlicking in this thread

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[–] gimpchrist@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Cute are they cosplaying Gaza

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wonder what Neil Young is gonna say

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