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The Georgia Republican is fast falling out of favor for her opposition to the Ukraine aid bill.

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene’s failed fight to end aid to Ukraine, and her sort-of-serious crusade against House Speaker Mike Johnson, has cost her the support of right-wing media.

The Sunday front page of the New York Post, owned by the conservative Murdoch family, was the latest outlet to attack Greene, invoking the “Moscow Marjorie” nickname coined by former representative Ken Buck.

Fox News, another arm of the Murdoch media empire, had already taken aim at the Georgia Republican last week, with columnist Liz Peek calling her an “idiot” and saying she needs to “turn all that bombastic self-serving showmanship and drama queen energy on Democrats.” This follows an editorial last month from The Wall Street Journal, also in the Murdoch portfolio, that called Greene “Rep. Mayhem Taylor Greene” and accused her and her allies of being “most interested in TV hits and internet donors.” 

Even a non-Murdoch outlet is on the attack, as conservative Las Vegas Review-Journal columnist Debra Saunders demanded to know “who put Marjorie Taylor Greene in charge?”

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[–] athos77@kbin.social 119 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

“who put Marjorie Taylor Greene in charge?”

You guys did, your entire right-wing mediasphere and political manipulation machine. Funny try to get out of it, you conceived and birthed that baby, you're stuck with her now.

All that said: I wonder how much misogyny is a factor here. It seems like they're getting rid of their firebrand women a helluva lot faster than they're getting rid of their firebrand men.

Edit: additional thought: they're turning against her (and calling her Moscow Marge) for her position on Ukraine aid. But they've been anti-Ukraine-aid for a while, following orders from Moscow. Is this just a ploy to make Republicans less distasteful in the fall elections, or is there some geopolitical calculus the Kochs and their ilk are seeing?

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 17 points 6 months ago

Yeah, the geopolitical calculus of "Americans are dumb and have the memory of a goldfish, if we look hard on Russia now they'll remember it for the election." I don't think there's anything beyond that.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 11 points 6 months ago

It is that this shit ain't working.

Media and people try very hard but take a look, anyone supporting the Trump bs moscow adjacent shit doesn't do well in polls Americans don't like it. Best get on the right side quick. I wonder if Gaetz will pivot or die

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

IRT your edit, I don't see this being a way that they thought about it. This is more them feeling silly now that the stupid is so out of the bag. They wanted all this hate energy, but with the ability to control it themselves. They've lost control, so the elite are now working to put control back into place.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 75 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I think I'm actually more mad about "Murdock owned media outlet, Murdock owned, also Murdock owned outlet oh and Murdock owned media. By the way, Murdock owned media outlet. Would you believe it, also Murdock owned outlet."

Ffs... Right wingers go on and on about the "deep state." How about how all of your goddamn brain rotting anti-reality "news" is coming from ONE GODDAMN ASSHOLE.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

but if they absorb his identity into themselves, maybe they'll finally get some money

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

FOX is in deep with the Pentagon and has been since its inception. So I'm not shocked to see them find issue with MTG for failing to be hawkish enough (on Russia). But I think TNR underestimates how much Murdoch This and Murdoch That is, itself, falling out of favor with mainstream conservatives.

We played this game back in 2008, when the Murdoch Press went hard in the paint for Rudy Giuliani and he couldn't break double digits in his "strong" state of Florida. Same thing happened to Marco Rubio and Ron DeSantis and Nicki Hailey.

Wingers love FOX when its slinging the red meat - criminal drug using migrant caravans and hordes of anti-semitic Columbia students and black teenager shoplifting rampage - but they fall out fast when Greg Gutfeld and Dana Perino aren't screaming about how Woke Swifties Are Ruining Football.

How about how all of your goddamn brain rotting anti-reality “news” is coming from ONE GODDAMN ASSHOLE.

The QAnon Crowd has largely walked away from FOX and moved on to harder stuff - OAN, Alex Jones, 4chan/Truth Social, etc. Go check out "QAnon Anonymous", a great source for monitoring and cataloguing the sheer depth of the crazy going on in the danker corners of the internet.

FOX has an average audience measured in the 1-2 million views. Compare that to Joe Rogan's podcast, which regularly hits above the 10M listener mark.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

FOX has an average audience measured in the 1-2 million views. Compare that to Joe Rogan's podcast, which regularly hits above the 10M listener mark.

Wait, really?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/friday-april-19-scoreboard-msnbc-is-most-watched-network-at-4-p-m/

Network ratings peak with Jesse Watters, at around 2.5M views.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/03/top-podcasts-2023-joe-rogan-tops-crime-junkie-and-the-daily/?sh=1038f2954ccf

The Joe Rogan Experience, which has an exclusive deal with Spotify, sat comfortably on top of Spotify’s U.S. podcast charts as of the end of June, and had the biggest weekly audience in the U.S. so far this year, according to Edison Research—the show, which has a loyal fanbase, is widely estimated to bring in 11 million listeners per episode.

Rogan also dominates in the coveted 25-45 demographic, where FOX is lucky to break six-digit ratings.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Even if everything Murdoch-owned dried up and blew away, they have other parts of their complete media system that would fill in - think of it - these people can live their entire lives, going from website to radio show to podcast to TV stations and never hear/see anything but that which will reinforce their worldview.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 53 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Liz Peek calling her an “idiot” and saying she needs to “turn all that bombastic self-serving showmanship and drama queen energy on Democrats.”

Liz Peek thinking she's better than MTG, yet playing the same game.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't care who it is or what their motives are. She's finally getting called out for her bullshit from folks she's supposedly on the "same side" with?

I can't wait until she runs for re-election.

[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

She is currently running for re-election.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I should have phrased that differently:

I can't wait for the results of her run. :)

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Don't get your hopes too high. I've lived in GA and frequently drove through her district. There's jack shit out there. No major businesses, no public services, no food outside of Subways, Bojangles, and McDonald's. It's mostly farmland with some really small towns filled with the kind of people who would vote for MTG. They're not at all informed and really don't care about anything more than "owning the libs."

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

To be fair, some of it is Chattanooga suburbs, there are the carpet manufacturers in Dalton, and that Buc-ee's opened a few years ago (that counts as fine dining, right?).

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

Fair point, but I'm still going to hope. Sounds like Boebert is never coming back, 2/2 would be a nice win.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

She’s running without a republican challenger. She won the last election 66% to 35%. Georgia’s 14th district hasn’t voted blue since its gerrymandered inception. I wouldn’t hold my breath.

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[–] exanime@lemmy.today 42 points 6 months ago

Quickly? this idiot has been propped up and waved around for what feels like 4 years...

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago (12 children)

I got perma-banned from Reddit for saying that I wished she’d trip and swallow her own head. That’s inciting violence apparently.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I got a warning for saying I wished tory voters get to experience the policies they voted for. Same reason

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (6 children)
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[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

What a surprise.

I don’t have evidence- but I strongly suspect not everyone there is quite who they purport to be.

It’s just a feeling, based on similar experiences, but I suspect some people are there in a professional capacity.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago

Oh wow, that's a pretty damning reaction on their part

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

That's because the politics sub was long ago taken over by people who wish to abuse the system for their personal gain. Amongst them are some right-wing trolls who have no problem with abusing their power.

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[–] lewdian69@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

Apparently 3 years is "quickly"

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Who put her in charge? Easy y'all had a a maga Kool aid chugging contest. Her and boebert tied.

Simple as that

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[–] sramder@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

She’s demonstrably heterosexual.

[But in your thickest Russian accent… try it, it’s fun.]

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[–] Harold_Penisman@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

That headline made me lol. She is an idiot.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

turn all that bombastic self-serving showmanship and drama queen energy on Democrats.

Huh, saying the quiet part out loud.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Oh so NOW idiots are a problem for them?

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Eventually they might even realize that MTG works for Putin, not Georgia.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 5 points 6 months ago

They all do, they all do...

[–] elliot_crane@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Couldn’t be happening to a nicer person.

(/s if it wasn’t obvious)

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

They aren't only just now realizing that she's an idiot; even they have known that for a while. She's just not useful to them anymore, so they have no need to keep her around.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Good to see from conservatives.

[–] ConfusedPossum@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago

She is such an idiot, I'd feel bad for her if she wasn't also a completely insufferable person

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