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[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 73 points 6 months ago (2 children)

...and finally something not completely fucked happened. Hope we meet again.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Actually, no. I don't hope we meet again. I want that bunch of clowns be replaced by normal functioning human beings, with differing ideologies but willing to work for the wellness of the country.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They passed a huge amount of aid for Israel like 2 minutes after

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The worst option was funding Israel and not Ukraine, but Israel can genocide Palestine just fine without any more American aid.

The only way to change that reality is to force a regime change or invade.

[–] Lemmeenym@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As a small silver lining, about a third of the Israeli aid package was humanitarian aid for Gaza.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 7 points 6 months ago

We'll see how much of it Israel actually lets them have.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 6 months ago

They don't need the money no, although we did for some fuckin reason just give them an amount of money equal to about their total yearly defense budget.

However, they desperately need the diplomatic cover we give them on the world stage. The western world is well capable to make life miserable via sanctions for any country that isn't playing ball to what we want them to do (Russia, Iran, North Korea, etc), to say nothing of getting hauled to the Hague to stand trial. Without the US shielding them from diplomatic consequences I think the theoretical ability to do their killing in a physical sense wouldn't be something they felt nearly as free with.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 59 points 6 months ago

112 Russian assets we need to purge this November

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Members voted 311-112 to pass the $60.8bn package, which the Senate had previously passed.

passed by the skin of the house's teeth

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This bill was not passed by the Senate. The Senate is scheduled to begin voting on this bill on Tuesday.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Remember a couple years ago when we gave Ukraine tons of shit immediately and for a split second it felt okay to be an American?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"I don't need a ride, I need ammo." Was perhaps the wisest thing to say to the American people.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Remember "The leader of the party is here. The head of the presidential administration is here, Prime Minister Shmyhal is here, Podolyak is here, the president is here. We are all here, the soldiers are here, the citizens of the country are here."?

I remember going to sleep expecting to wake up in the morning and learn the guy had been killed or captured, and the Russians had taken Kyiv.

Shit was wild. There's a reason the eastern front line hasn't budged, with them outnumbered the whole time and outgunned by 10:1 for as long as it took to finish the first Gulf War.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 6 points 6 months ago

It’s no surprise they stayed, can you imagine finding an airplane that could carry the balls on those guys?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if they have the votes for cloture on the inevitable filibuster.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I don't believe that's a problem. Remember, they already passed a bipartisan iteration of these bills. Rand Paul has promised to slow it down, but they'll run him over if they have to.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He should threaten to switch parties if they vote him out. That’s like 2 retirements.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Democrats don't want him. He's a loon

[–] transmatrix@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Two things: I bet this just saved Johnson’s bacon. Democrats will likely reward him by not voting against him when MTG raises the vacate vote. I’ll also bet that this only happened because Trump didn’t back Johnson even after he went and kissed the ring.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

I think Johnson got into briefing rooms with the white house, the CIA, and the Joint Chiefs, and realized that the maga games have the potential to spiral into world war 3. Death and destruction beyond anything humanity has ever seen.

And he started figuring out how to givern like an adult. McCarthy had already burned too many bridges with Dems. They hated him. Johnson was a fresh face and Dems were desperate for someone they could cut deals with.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Mike Johnson giving off some strong Simon Barron from 30 Rock vibes in that pic