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[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

What did I fucking say about handing out acid to lemurs?!

[–] OmegaMouse@pawb.social 13 points 7 months ago

That it's an excellent idea?

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 17 points 7 months ago

Yeah. This is why fans get upset at bad sequels.

They are not just dolls to be played with every which way then tossed in a box. Chalk to be used on the sidewalk before the rain.

They are just as real to you, dear reader, as I am to you. The Enterprise is as applicable to my life as black holes and dinosaurs. The fiction in my head trying to interpret the world, is just as real as the fiction in your world.

OTOH, try to plan for the future in the physical world. Captain Janeway won't lend you a 5.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The reality we perceive, our reality, isn't the one that our body exists in, external reality. This lemur refers to our reality as simply reality, but that's often not what we mean when we say the word.

When we say ideas "aren't based in reality" or when we talk about "snapping back to reality," we're referring to external reality. We always exist in our reality, but that reality is only an approximation of external reality. Snapping "back to reality" means realigning our reality to more closely match external reality.

In this sense, the lemur is mostly correct in saying that imagined realities are similarly real to our reality's approximation of external reality. Both are constructed by our mind. However, we almost always know the difference for most things that pass through our reality. Even people who struggle the most to figure out which perceptions come from external reality(think people with schizophrenia) can intentionally imagine things they recognize don't come from perception.

We distinguish current perception from memories and imagination, so I disagree that those things are equally fictional in our reality. They're equally constructed and we can be wrong about how we categorize things, but we do make a distinction. Fiction just isn't a useful word to describe all mental constructions or stories. It specifies when the story isn't based in external reality, not that it's a story.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I dunno.. Seems to me that this lemur is putting Descartes before the horse..

[–] Juice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

What do noumeana by that? I Kant understand it

[–] Grail@aussie.zone 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] JackRiddle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Some ccru-ass shit

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thanks Zoboomafoo

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

Is this lemur Morpheus?