Perfect type of ad to push - conservatives can advocate for these harsh bans because they never think it will effect them. The more examples put in their face the harder it is for them to avoid empathizing.
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Lol conservatives don't empathize
They do when it's their ox being gored.
Nancy Reagan was happy to be the public face of Right To Life, right up to the minute she found out that human stem cells from embryos might be a cure for Ronnie's dementia. Then she was all for stem cell exemptions.
If there are enough people who want IVF, they'll get a workaround.
I never imagined that the leopards would eat my face!
It’s not empathy when it’s happening to you.
All those years throat goat was milking cocks looking for stem cells? What a twist.
This is almost the exact playbook that got Abortion unbanned in Ireland (which is heavily Catholic). The average American conservative when polled, is against elective abortions; but they're generally fine with abortions for medical reasons. And for 20 years the Pro-life crowd has garnered their support by claiming "nobody wants to force women to die in childbirth". Now that that's clearly a lie that's the truth that needs to be pushed. And I believe it will be effective.
When you play games with healthcare, people die.
I know that, but that message hasn't been well communicated to the average red voter (likely because of the surprise of the Roe v. Wade overturning).
People are largely against a type of abortion that is almost never used as birth control has gotten so effective. I don't think the average person realizes that roughly half of all abortions have been for medical reasons and not been elective for a long time and that the total number of abortions have been trending downward for a long time.
Dems need to hammer that message home this election and hopefully ads like this are effective at doing it.
Yeah but this ad isn't getting in front of conservatives on MSNBC. It needs to be on Fox and OAN.
It's kind of gross to give them money, but yeah, probably.
Fox and OANN will run any ad that pays them.
Moderates do, and can be swayed.
More of this please
Same people who claim it's gods will if people die during a bad pregnancy, will thank god if they have a successful heart operation.
It's insanity pure and simple, it doesn't matter that it stems from religion, that only makes it religious insanity.
Yep. Thank God and give him all the glory, and not the team of surgeons who worked tirelessly to save your life.
Jesus take the scalpel
Bullet stays in lol
Aaaaaand the patient is dead, turns out Jesus is a really bad surgeon. And then they'll sue when it turns out relying on thoughts and prayers makes for a really shit healthcare system. Somehow they're unwilling to accept "it's all part of gods plan" as a malpractice defense either.
What do you mean, "Bronze Age carpenters don't make good surgeons"?
[1] What’s to say that someone getting an abortion isn’t god’s will?
[2] How can anyone really claim to know what god’s will even is in the first place?
Ironically, A rather conservative old school pastor I had growing up often told a fable of a guy talking to god for the first time. His boat was damaged and sinking after he struck a rock. About 30 minutes after another boat saw the damaged boat and offered him help and the guy waved it away saying "nah, God will help me." A couple hours pass and another boat sees his submerging boat and offers him help and he replys again "nah, God will help me!" Another half hour passes and the boat is under water and the guy is struggling to stay afloat. A third boat passes by and he waves it by again, "no, God will intervene!"
The guy asks God "why didn't you save me?"
God replies "I sent three rescues, what more could I have done?"
This story is exactly to impress on people that god is behind everything (works in mysterious ways), and you should thank god whenever you are helped by people. It's complete bullshit.
God didn't send any rescuers, that's delusional.
If you are rescued, thank the rescuer not god.
I think it does a better job at highlighting the flaw in thinking "God is behind everything." The guy that drowned didn't "drown of Gods will" he drowned because he was an idiot.
Remove God from the story and it stays the same. At least, that's what led me to figure out the whole concept of an omnipotent, omniscient, omni benevolent diety and a whole religion was BS.
If it worked for you that's great, but consider why? If they were talking, did god not tell him earlier. The story is stupid, if somehow that stupidity prevents people from relying on god, then fine.
But it seems to me it's more explaining away why god doesn't actually help, which is supposed to be "it seems like" god doesn't help, but you should believer that he does, despite there is no evidence of it.
Note that this story is generally told by the religious, not by atheists. And there's a reason for that.
I think you got the wrong takeaway from that story... The character of God rebukes the dead man for not accepting the practical help of other people. It's just framed as though God sent the rescuers to convince the "believes in miracles" crowd that no such things exist.
Consider a simple rewording: instead of "I sent you two boats and a helicopter" you read "Two boats and a helicopter came to save you." This solves your only hangup and doesn't even change the story. Your beef is with the aesthetic component, not the meaning of the story.
These morons don't realize that if there is a god, then that god created the doctors who invented the procedure. He created the pharmacologists that invented abortion pills. He made queerfolk. He made all the authors that wrote all the books that Moms for Liberty wants to ban.
These people are expressly trying to interfere with gods will. For that, I would think, they should be smote and sent directly to hell.
But, they haven't been smoted yet. Ipso facto, there is no god, and these people need to get a grip and let other people live their lives.
That’s pretty much my argument, yeah. Also, to the people who support Israel because they want to usher in the return of Christ: they’re trying to force god’s will. Do they not understand that god would be absolutely wrathful over their arrogance? There’s no rapture for them. Not that there will be a rapture in the first place, but that’s beside the point.
Here's the ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wInNjr_9D28
I couldn't find it anywhere in the OP.
Jesus fuck that hits hard.
Trump is now saying abortion should be up to the states to decide, but he's only saying that to sway voters in his direction.
"Letting the states decide" is how those of us stuck in deep red states got to where we are now. It's not good enough. And I hope it doesn't sway middle-of-the-fence voters in blue states to think he "won't be that bad".
It only takes one election cycle, and those states can flip red too.
The pro-lifers that think there should just be an exceptions when mother’s life is at risk need to also hear that the Texas law already has an exemption for when a doctor uses their "reasonable medical judgment" that the life of the mother is at risk or the pregnancy poses "a serious risk of substantial impairment of a major bodily function."
All pregnancies are a risk to the mother’s life, anytime a doctor performs an abortion in Texas they risk losing their license, and possibly even prison time. Which is why we have these case of mothers with unviable pregnancies that aren’t terminated until they’re almost dead.
If you care about life, why on earth would you support a law that takes informed medical decisions away from doctors and their patients to put it in the hands of lawyers and lawmakers?
Bruh, Kate Cox, actually got a judge in Texas to agree that she should be able to get an abortion because both her AND her baby were at risk of not surviving. Her baby, unfortunately, wasn't going to live long if it made it to term anyhow, it was going to have a difficult short life full of suffering, and she was at risk of dying if she delivered. She also already had 2 children at home.
And Ken fucking Paxton, the Texas Attorney General, fucking overturned the judges allowance and Kate Cox ended up having to flee with her husband to a different state to get the procedure instead.
It was the quintessential "Hey, I'm dying, I need Healthcare" and the Texas government going "LOL get fucked." I cannot imagine what her and her husband went through mentally. To know that the government was actively stepping in to prevent anyone from saving that woman's life.
More people need to see/hear/know about what's happening in Texas. These ads need to highlight how much worse it really is here after the repeal of RvW (and it was pretty fucking bad before).
Spam this, SPAM EVERY FUCKING THING that went wrong Under Chump, EVERYWHERE you can! Get it on the internet, now, now, now, now, now!
$5 says some fact checking site says it’s a lie because Trump himself didn’t sign legislation, he just put the judges on the court.
On a related note, in case anyone hasn't seen this yet:
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/112235238031827342/
Risky click.
True lol. I'd give a transcript if I could find one. It's a video trump posted, taking credit for overturning roe v wade.
This makes me feel sick to my stomach I cannot vote but I can share this in my instances local politics sub.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The 60-second ad, which first aired Monday on MSNBC, focuses on Amanda Zurawski, a Texas woman who sued the state after, she said, she almost died from a miscarriage.
As the couple continues to recount memories of the pregnancy, text on the screen reads, "Because Donald Trump killed Roe v. Wade, Amanda was denied standard medical care to prevent infection, an abortion."
Doctors were forced to send Amanda home, and three days later, she wound up in intensive care with sepsis, according to the ad.
The campaign also said the ad will air on popular entertainment and sports programming on stations like ESPN, Comedy Central, FX and TNT and during prime-time shows such as "Saturday Night Live," "The Voice," "American Idol," "Grey's Anatomy" and "Abbott Elementary."
The couple told NBC News in February that they were planning to move her frozen embryos out of Texas in case the state stops providing in vitro fertilization services.
Biden and Democrats hope the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn the 1973 landmark Roe ruling will benefit them at the ballot box in November, just as the key issue of reproductive rights helped the party’s candidates in the 2022 midterm elections.
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Thankfully only the baby died.