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And I think an organisation covering for pedophiles and murdering kids in their schools have no moral high ground and it is definitely unfit to lecture anyone on human dignity.

Eat a bag of dicks Francis

The Vatican said Pope Francis had approved the document, which also reaffirms its condemnation of surrogacy, saying the practice represents “a grave violation of the dignity of the woman and the child”.

“A child is always a gift and never the basis of a commercial contract,” the document says. “Every human life, beginning with that of the unborn child in its mother’s womb, cannot be suppressed, nor become an object of commodity.”

The ethical problems with surrogacy are real, but they're not about the child. They're about income inequality and putting adult women through a physically traumatic, dangerous, and possibly life-changing experience for money. If we were able to use artificial wombs for "surrogacy" (I know, it's technically not the same thing), I think people would see it as nothing but a new type of fertility medicine.

How about you work on your age-of-concent-fluidity problems first.

The Vatican is still covering up little boy rape, right?

I say diddling kids is a threat to human dignity.

idk, seems like forced birth and pedophilia are bigger threats to the dignity of the woman and the child than surrogacy

The Vatican has described the belief in gender fluidity as “a concession to the age-old temptation to make oneself God”

Better update the bible in English to refer to god as "they" instead of always using male pronouns, then.

Let this be a reminder to you that organized religion only accepts social progress when they get dragged to do it under risk of becoming irrelevant. This Pope's previous winks to the LGBT community were the bare minimum that the Catholic Church has to do in order to not to continue losing followers (and their wallets) in some countries such as Spain and Ireland. The moment a much less mainstream concept, such as gender fluidity, gets brought into the table, it's free game for them again.

Wouldn't depriving someone of their right to their preferred identity be considered a threat to human dignity?

Frank, if you want to find threats to human dignity, look at your child molesting priests and your bishops covering for them. Until then, you're in no place to judge.

All top level religious leaders are generally awful. Especially if it's Abrahamic.

If you think Buddhists are exempt, read about the Tibetan Buddhist monarchies.

Also, theocracy needs to die.

Ah yes, recknognizing that human beings come in many different forms is the "threat to human dignity", and definitely not the practice of trying to aggressively (even violently) shoehorn others into neat, convenient categories. 🙄

Yes, because living your desires as your true self is no way to find dignity. And surrogacy?! Like…what.

The only threat to human dignity here is child-rapists being considered the experts on morality.

Conservatism is a vile plague and religion a tool of conservatism. There is no greater threat to humanity than conservative religious people.

Ah yes, it is uniquely dignified to hate your body and feel like an alien inside it.

there's the catholic church that I knew and hated.

I wonder why multiple adults beating the shit out of 6 year old me with yardsticks wasn't a threat to human dignity.

Agreed. Being slightly less of an asshole than one”s predecessor is definitely not the same as being “cool”.

Fuck the vatican

The woke pope got lame.

Boo!

Boo, again I say!

It makes life so much harder for Trans living in parts of the world where Catholicism is still relevant.

Get Fucked Pedo Leader!!!

LOL, every single surrogate I've ever met personally, with the exception of one, has been a staunch Christian.

And thr vatican can fuck right off with their outdated world view.

Wonder why they’re losing so many followers

Human dignity has been a nonarguement for 100,000 years

It's important to note that all the times he's been the "cool pope" he's prefaced all his statements with the phrase "ex cathedra", which means he's speaking as himself, not "the Pope". Because anything he says as "the Pope" is the official church position.

Pretty ironic considering what they have done to human dignity for centuries

There are a couple of institutions that keep trying to bring us back to the middle ages. I suggest we get rid of them for good before they declare the next holy crusade. Dear Pope, you suck!