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https://lemmy.ca/c/mensliberation

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Men's Liberation

NOTE: This is not a misogynistic community a la MRA

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[–] sloonark@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I like the idea behind the community but it is a terrible name. Without reading an explanation, most people would assume it was some toxic, misogynistic group. I only know what it refers to because I bothered reading some of the comments here.

I'm sure there are much better names, such as Positive Masculinity for example.

[–] spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also positive masculinity tends to still be rooted in fairly patriarchal ideas of what it means to be a man in ways that liberation from gender roles specifically is not.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

I like the idea behind the community but it is a terrible name.

The men's liberation movement is a concept going back 50+ years. It would be difficult to change that at this point.

Also r/MensLib is a large, well-known sub with a well-defined remit. If you are going to start something similar on here it would be confusing not to go with a similar name. However, because of its scope, from what I saw, it tended to be a bit alienating to those who didn't toe the party line.

So there is room for a community focused on a broader, looser discussion of the topic (although it'd need strict moderating), like:

I’m sure there are much better names, such as Positive Masculinity for example.

Healthy Masculinity? It seems to be the more accepted term, although they can be used interchangeably.

[–] v81@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're right about the assumption... ... But the assumptions are also part of the problem.

Women's liberation doesn't get a second glance at is name, so why can't a men's liberation discussion group enjoy the same?

[–] danhasnolife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I like the concept of being able to talk openly about mens' issues. That liberation name is unfortunate; in my opinion, it definitely sounds at least apologetic towards misogyny. What do we have to be liberated from?

[–] oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Consider that patriarchy hurts men too. There's a lot of pressure to be a certain way in order to "be a man", no crying or expressing emotions beyond anger or happiness, gotta be tough, that sort of thing. We can and should liberate ourselves from those toxic expectations

Edit: i'm sure someone else might be able to word it better, that's just off the top of my head/how i interpret it

[–] spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a reference to the women's lib movement. It's about liberation from patriarchy and traditional gender roles.

See here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_liberation_movement

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't participate in the sub much but I did appreciate having a that view come in my feed here and there. And without having to invade a women's space.

[–] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see one post that is 3 hours old and all the rest are over 6 months old. Any idea why?

[–] spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Just a fairly inactive community. Was hoping to breathe a little life into it with this post.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] skates@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had the same question opening this thread so I googled it.

the interconnected nature of social categorizations such as race, class, and gender as they apply to a given individual or group, regarded as creating overlapping and interdependent systems of discrimination or disadvantage.

[–] spinne@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What this means in this context is considering the viewpoints coming from many different groups--people of different races, religions, disabilities, neurodivergence, etc., so issues that affect men with disabilities, for example, are as important as issues that affect men without disabilities. They don't get ignored or sidelined in favor of more mainstream conversations.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems like it just ends up killing a group’s momentum though. Instead of finding the common problems that affect everyone in the larger group me, you spend time talking about all the small issues that only effect some people in the group and then nothing gets done about the issues that actually affect a superlative or majority of the group.

[–] spinne@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone with a learning disability, a history of trauma, neurodivergence, and is part of a racial minority, I really don't give a fuck if the majority are kept quiet for five minutes lol

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s the problem. You want to keep the majority quiet instead of finding common ground that will help everyone in the greater group.

[–] spinne@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems weird to me that you think helping marginalized people wouldn't help everybody. That's the whole point, finding solutions to problems that work for everyone, not just those in the middle of the bell curve.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Helping everyone helps everyone. Helping just some people helps just some people. And it divides your group inter ever smaller segments, diminishing your power.

[–] spinne@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

You can be short-sighted and wrong, but it's better to re-examine your beliefs and the way you understand the world. It's a good thing to grow out of this phase.

[–] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !mensliberation@lemmy.ca

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bad bot. Bot should notice when the post also contains a link in its preferred format.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

It has been fixed now, sorry for the inconvenience!

[–] MadgePickles@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

This was a good sub, glad to see it here