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We’re currently experiencing a second wave of misunderstood Starship Troopers, due to Helldivers 2 getting popular.

For the unaware, Helldivers is basically a Starship Troopers video game. It has all the same themes and satire. And yet there’s a massive part of the player base that doesn’t catch the satire, and believes it’s just the greatest alien-killing game to ever be made.

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o0o0o yes! thats a great misconception.. and so re-watchable.

Thank you for actually explaining Donnie Darko. The people I've talked with about it think it's about a boy and his schizophrenia

he fulfils the grandfather paradox on himself.

Taking "go fuck yourself" to new heights.

Oh I watched this when I was in my teens and was and still am confused on what it's about lol. Something time travel and Jake G letting a plane engine land on him while laughing...

I have run into a number of people that had never seen it because they couldn't stand the very title. And then once I sit them down and make them watch it their mind is blown like they've just seen Requiem for a Dream or Trainspotting.

It's not a toxic masculinity movie. It's a movie about toxic masculinity.

People think that ? That's weird AF

Let's be fair here. While that is the point of the Scott and Ramona story, the movie didn't really put a lot of effort into portraying that. The comics went a little more deeply into that dynamic and fleshing out the relationship, it was still pretty much the background against the character personality showcasing, and over the top dramatic fights. The movie really did nail the vibe and the characters but the whole "I think I learned something" and the end of the movie really downplays the "lesson" of the whole plot. So much so that I don't think Scott himself even fully understood the actual lesson he just learned. Just that what he was doing was wrong, and needed to change, but not why and what exactly it was he needed to change.

Great movie for sure, even better comic series, but a deep complex plot it isn't.

I am not usually one to roll my eyes at literary analysis, but these themes are not well developed in the movie at all. It is absolutely meant to be a visually interesting teen romcom first, with some commentary about relationships tagging along for the ride.

I'm going to be honest, I watched it once in high school because a friend was a fan. It has been a long time since then. This is a casual viewers input with maybe a decade viewing gap lol.

I remember the cool graphics, and I remember not liking Scott very much. The drummer chick was cool, but the focus on Scott's perspective demanded focus over her for telling the story you describe. Cera put me off some films back then, but I find I appreciate his earlier work in Arrested Development more nowadays.

No real valuable input to be had from me, but as a fan from other fandoms, I can appreciate the struggle of enjoying a setting and then having it consumed for cheap visual entertainment.

I think the films original ending was really nice.

For the uninitiated: after saying goodbye to Nega Scott, he realises he was only infatuated with Ramona, and goes back to dating Knives.

They go back to the ninja arcade dancing game where they broke up, and have fun playing together again.

Perfect synopsis. Thank you.

I love the comic book-ness that this film has. Julie's censor was hilarious

I might be explaining the joke out of turn, but the soap says “fight club” on it held by the guy who says not to talk about it. At least that’s what I thought the poster was pointing out. Not sure why they’re getting downvoted..

My take with fight club is he went all the way down the rabbit hole. Modern capitalism beat him down to the point he had a psychotic break

The other guys literally saw him punching himself in a parking lot, and they were so numb and hungry for something different that their first thought was "maybe getting punched would make me feel something". It wasn't a bunch of psychos, it was average people so numb and beat down they took the first opportunity to rebel against the norm.

One of them died. They didn't just do a terrorism, they destroyed the loans of hundreds of thousands of people, and killed no one. It was presented as an effective and morally justifiable act. If you could blow up an empty office building and lift a quarter million people out of crushing poverty, it's property destruction vs lives.

I don't think he came to terms with himself or worked on himself, he saw that he went from a fight club to a cult to the leader of freedom fighters in no time.

He doesn't come to terms with himself, he's terrified because he's not in control of himself and he just did something he would've found not only unthinkable, but logistically impossible before his psychotic break

He tries to kill himself rather than see where he'll go, how long before he'll blow up a building full of people.

Then he survives. He went down the rabbit hole, and came back changed. His life didn't get better, he didn't just work on himself. He came back where he started after glimpsing the other side, and he brought his adventure back with him to the life he was so desperate to leave.

It's the heroes journey - he wasn't just mentally ill in wonderland, he was hyper competent. People were willing to die for him, and to kill for him. He was able to blow up a building, and no people, and get away with it. He accomplished a heroic feat in magnitude if nothing else.

But it terrified the shit out of him, he had enough adventure. So he found himself happy to return home, and he picked up where he left off.

Willingness to go to therapy wasn't the journey, that's what an office worker does when they have a psychotic break. The journey was to be a hero fighting back against the orphan crushing machine, and he did it. He struck a meaningful blow, he destroyed the Ring. And then he went home, having had his adventure and appreciating the peace of mediocrity

Don’t have time.