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[–] Jaamulberry@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Counter point. I would wager people are more productive scrolling 5 minutes through a Facebook post then taking a 30 minute coffee break talking to various coworkers. I would hate this. Also if you're a developer how would you research something? No stack overflow? No access to forums to solve particular problems? Not sure this is sustainable.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Losing access to language reference docs would be huge. What are they gonna do, save them all locally? Maintain copies of those sites on the company intranet, at the company's expense? What happens when the next version of Python is released?

This is a real cut the nose the spite the face move. Google would hemorrhage developers.

[–] abhibeckert@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I had access to a good LLM, that'd be enough for 99% of my research. And the other 1% I could probably do on a phone.

[–] aksdb@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

LLMs produce text. They don't answer questions. If the probability of the keywords in the question are being used in correlation with the answer often enough, it might (re)produce the actual answer. But you can never be sure.

LLMs are not a source for information.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems rather bizarre to me, though it could make sense for some non-technical roles. For developers, seems a bit impractical; much of language documentation is online and odd errors, common and esoteric, are frequently completely absent from docs. This seems likely to require devs to either use unauthorized devices or waste time digging through source (possibly for the programming language itself) to figure things out.

However, the remark about root access makes me hope that there are not people logging into systems at Google as root. A sudoer, sure, but root is a big no-no.

[–] skwerls@waveform.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like they could have a machine with higher level access air gapped, and a less secure machine for browsing the internet but not internal tools. Would still suck for copy paste and things of the line, but would probably work in most cases.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I would think that this would be an approach that absolutely makes sense for corporate infra systems like domain servers, systems with access to network configs, etc.

Maybe adding an additional security tier? Something like "sandbox dev" where new third-party libraries and technologies can be tested and a "production dev" which is more restricted. That might be the "right" way.

The problem that I'd see is that productivity, development velocity, and release cadence would all take a nose-dive as software engineers have to continually repeat work, roughly doubling the real amount of work needed to release any piece of software. This would likely be seen as incompatible with modern business and customer expectations.