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[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Joe Biden isn't "committing genocide," nor is the US actively. We are however funding those (Isreal) who are.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

It’s still complicity.

Israel couldn’t do what they’re doing now without 75 years worth of zealous support.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hitler didn't commit Genocide, he just gave the command to people who committed the Genocide!

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

~~You can still be found as an accomplice to a crime. But that is neither here nor there.~~

Changed my opinion.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

The guy supplying a Genocidal state with bombs while knowing they are starving two million people is a bit more than "an accomplice".

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 6 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Hey all, just a reminder:

All the influx of shilling on Lemmy positing memes which are "short, quippy, and wrong" in IS's terminology, leading ultimately to the conclusion "please don't vote, it's not worth it, it won't make a difference, and Biden's very very bad anyway" -- it's all for one simple reason: Voting works. It is one of the rare opportunities the normal-person population has to influence the people in charge, by some small degree. It's not enough, but it's also not to be wasted.

The whole reason there's all this investment of time and energy into manipulating people's opinions is the same reason there's so much energy towards manipulating their ability to vote in the first place: It's worth the investment of energy and money that it takes to do that. Because voting has power.

I think it's clear that an honest accounting of how Biden has been doing puts him well above average for establishment Democrats. Is that good enough? Fuck no. I am about to vote in the primary in my state and I would love if someone would give me a realistic way to support someone younger than Biden, or to move the Democrats effectively towards the actual left.

Also, all this blaming of Gaza specifically on Biden as if he was the one making the decisions about what the IDF should do on the ground, and talk about the election as if that one bad thing happening in the world undoes anything good he's done or anything 10 times more genocidal that Trump might do -- I actually really hope that that does succeed in breaking the US's unconditional and war-criminal support for Israel that's been going for 50+ years. Or at least moving it in the right direction. Let's see.

But again, take this kind of thing as the reminder that it should be: They are trying so hard to influence how you look at the election, because what you decide to do in the election matters, and they know that.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey all, just a reminder this meme is about the primary, the place every Biden supporter says if you don’t like him don’t vote for him in but support him at the general.

Which is it? Or do you lot just not want people to express disapproval with him ever?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

just a reminder this meme is about the primary

Or do you lot just not want people to express disapproval with him ever?

Sounds like you've already decided what "you lot" think and say, and you've saved yourself the time it would have taken to read my message by just creating a message in your mind that's what "you lot" say, in your imagination. You're responding to what you heard in your head, not what I wrote. Here's part of what I actually said:

"Is [Biden] good enough? Fuck no. I am about to vote in the primary in my state and I would love if someone would give me a realistic way to support someone younger than Biden"

You should read the whole thing, I'd love to talk if you have something with which to respond to what I actually said.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Voting works, that's why Trump fairly won in 2016 despite getting less of them than his competition. Please just trust the system that oppresses you and we promise it will all work out once we get rid of ~~Snowball~~ ~~Goldstein~~ Trump."

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If someone has to mischaracterize you this hard in order to make their argument, it usually means they want to disagree but can't find an aboveboard way to argue against anything you said.

And so, behold: "Voting is better than not" becomes "voting is all you need to do and things are fine," and is presented all sarcastic and mean. It's not a real convincing way to argue, but what else can you do if you're trying to say people on the left not voting is gonna be a winning strategy for the left?

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

What am I mischaracterizing? The only person who's mischaracterizing is you. "Voting is better than not," isn't what they said. Voting in America doesn't work. Every American could abstain from voting and the outcome would be the same thanks to the Electoral College.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev -1 points 8 months ago

I said:

Is [Biden] good enough? Fuck no.

I would love if someone would give me a realistic way to support someone younger than Biden

I actually really hope that that does succeed in breaking the US's unconditional and war-criminal support for Israel

And you characterized that as:

Please just trust the system

we promise it will all work out

... so that you would have a way to disagree with me.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Or... it's just a meme in a memes channel. Vote for Biden, I don't care. Just laugh at the meme.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 8 months ago

It would help if anything about it was funny.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If it really was just "a" meme, I wouldn't feel the need to say anything. The first 10 or 15 of them that I saw, I just kind of ignored without comment.

Vote for Biden, I don't care

I mean... you clearly do.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I've said it plenty of times here but I'll say it again. I hate Biden. I hate Trump. The party that aligns closest to me is the Dems. I'll continue to bash them and hold their feet to the fire because politicians are not our friends. I'm far left. The Dems are closer to Trump than I am.

[–] GundamWang@infosec.pub 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

NOO you have to blindly support the dems, they can do nothing wrong. What are you a Trump supporter?????

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago

Okay well did you not consider that OP is literally a nazi ruzzian 4chan hacker troll? Checkmate republitard

[–] anarchost@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Fascism thrives on apathy.

Why vote one day every 4 years when I can be a keyboard warrior all the time

[–] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Why does this Biden look like Mike Pence walking past the lingerie section of a department store?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You just have to deny the Genocide hard enough then Biden can still win.

Now join us in our Genocide Death cult where we pretend that ignoring Biden being complicit in Genocide is going land him victory

Don't make biden fix it that would be very bad for his re- election chances. Never address the issue. Pretend the issue is very minor and whenever somebody says Genocide is bad be sure to use the magical line

"But ~~her emails~~ Trump"

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Underrated comment. Bravo.

[–] PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

"I am a Zionist" - Joe Biden

[–] xor@infosec.pub 2 points 8 months ago