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[–] BedbugCutlefish@lemmy.world 164 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Its almost entirely made from plants

And like, even if it was dinosaurs, Dirt is also (partially) made from decayed animals. And, oversimplifying, that dirt becomes plants.

And that's all fine for vegans, because it doesn't involve exploitation of animals. Like, if you needed to raise and kill animals to use their corpses to grow plants, that'd be animal exploitation.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good thing yeast is technically not an animal.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fungi is closer related to animals than plants.

[–] Obonga@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So in your mind that makes fungi capable of feeling just like animals?

[–] ox0r@jlai.lu 5 points 1 year ago

When I eat magic mushrooms, I feel like fungi are capable of feeling all kinds of weird shit tbh

[–] Xanderill@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, creepy right? Just wanted to note we eat the fruit of the fungi. The mycelium would be the "living" part.

[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

All water was at some point Dino piss. guess vegans can't drink

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[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 47 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Pedantry alert: most oil comes from algae and plankton. By “most”, I’m talking high 90 percent rather than 51 percent.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But I like saying my car runs on dinosaur squeezins'.

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

This is better than “dinosaur juice”. I’m stealing it.

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[–] ArdMacha@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Petrol isn't made of dinos it's made of is plankton

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

"bio diesel" contains animal fat, 1 million tons each year in the EU alone.

[–] Maddie@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's algae, not dinosaurs

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mostly algae, a splash of dinosaurs.

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Just a sprinkle of dino

[–] underKap@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

i aggre with you if you're talkin about mass capitalism version of veganism, but the original activist movement of veganism, which is more direct and utopic, is in fact against vehicles itself, cos the production of everything involved causes harm to animals environment.

[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm down for fuckcars veganism

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, these days, many people become vegan to combat climate change and are opposed to fossil fuels even before that...

[–] insurgenRat@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

definitionally you aren't vegan if environmental impact is your terminal goal. It would be like saying you're Christian for the cathedrals or something.

Veganism is a philosophy and life practice of trying to minimise harm to other earthlings. It can involve environmentalism as an instrumental goal, that is protecting the environment to avoid mass suffering, but a world of perfect environmental preservation where all ants have depression would be unacceptable to a vegan but not to an environmentalist.

Many people with environmental goals adopt a plant based diet and/or lifestyle.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

veganism isn't inherently utilitarian. some vegans would be fine with a world full of depressed ants.

[–] insurgenRat@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

The definition privileges action, which is why vegan philosophy is generally fine with stuff like foxes hunting birds but not humans hunting foxes to save birds.

Taking action to depress ants to save others would go against the ethos as defined:

"Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."

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[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Oil is made from plants that died back when there was no bacteria to break down those plants once they died.

We now have that bacteria, so we won’t ever have more oil.

[–] underKap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

i aggre with you if you're talkin about mass capitalism version of veganism, but the original activist movement of veganism, which is more direct and utopic, is in fact against vehicles itself, cos the production of everything involved causes harm to animals environment.

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