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[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 154 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That's what made me refuse to use the Reddit official app before their API garbage. Every update was a gamble as to whether they'd try to make me spend money through muscle memory.

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[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 138 points 9 months ago (29 children)

I've been using Linux since Ubuntu was in the single digits. Looks like windows entering the double digits is finally the end. I thought win10 would be able to stay relatively unmolested, but nope, copilot button and bullshit right there in the bar. Why can't you just leave us the fuck alone. Your driving everyone away who doesn't have a professional obligation to use your OS. I'll still have to keep a old win10 boot drive that never connects to a network so I can play games and use CAD that Linux can't. As a KDE fanboi they've added pretty much everything I've always wished for and plasma 6 is launching.

Now is my time. Fuck you Microsoft. I won't miss you.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 50 points 9 months ago (2 children)

10+ years with Linux as my daily driver (yeah I'm old). When my os updates, it's almost always with some feature that's pretty neat.

Nowadays the steamdeck or some combo of Linux with steam can play my games, do my work, and I actively make other people's lives better when I contribute.

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[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 123 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I noticed this bullshit a few days ago on my Win 11 desktop! I found if you go check the settings of the start bar, you can hide the copilot icon in the lower right, and then there's a check box to enable the lower right hand corner to work as show desktop again. The functionality can be restore to exactly as it was, but what the hell were they thinking.

Enshitification, plain and simple.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I genuinely do not get the hype of integrating LLMs fucking everywhere. There are places it makes sense, like word processors and email clients. Then there are places it doesn't make sense, like as an aside in my desktop environment. No one's going to use it. It's Cortana all over again.

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[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 108 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (12 children)

Switch to Linux!

As a Linux user myself, let me tell you that telling people what they should/must do this is how you make people plainly ignore you and think you're just an annoying person.

People will keep using what works for them, be it Windows/Linux/MacOS even if with minor inconveniences. Same goes for browsers/services/etc...

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 42 points 9 months ago (19 children)

"Microsoft continually makes their OS worse, but every time they do, Linux users come into the comment section telling me I should switch, so I'm not going to."

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

People don't switch just because of some minor inconvenience (as if Linux didn't have any...) and outside of Lemmy/the Fediverse echo chamber very few people are concerned about privacy. They will switch (maybe) if the new tool works better for them than thge previous one. Otherwise, why should they bother? Linux is my primary OS since many years, but it isn't everybody's cup of tea.

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[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The thing is, is that it really doesn’t affect people in the way you guys seem to imagine.

I’ve used Linux, MacOS, and Windows. Currently use Windows for work as a C# . net, SQL / GraphQL, and React TypeScript developer and although I was shocked they’re all pro windows, coming from MacOS. Once you get used to it you don’t really notice the shit stuff as you just do what you’re doing.

I would still rate my experiences in this order though: MacOS, Linux, Windows. Best to worst, but like I said even though in now use the worst in my opinion it really doesn’t have much of an impact. Plus if I were to use Linux I’d need to geek out and waste so much time configuring it and I’m past that stage.

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 100 points 9 months ago (30 children)

Wow, Microsoft are always so innovative! I never thought that the Win11 taskbar could get any shittier, but somehow they managed it. It's great to see those thousands of engineers being put to good use.

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[–] Breve@pawb.social 94 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Everyone: Don't say anything sensitive or personal to an AI because it could end up in training data!

Microsoft: We're making it easier to feed everything you do on your computer to an AI from notepad to your desktop!

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[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 9 months ago (11 children)

... You guys might shit on it, but that's incredibly smart on their part. Ten years or more of that button being there and now suddenly something else replaces it, just imagine the amount of people accidentally hitting the button and being introduced to copilot. This was a very deliberate change.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 68 points 9 months ago

It's Smart as in, MLM scheme smart. Not honorable, just smart. Like a thief that is clever about not leaving fingerprints.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 32 points 9 months ago

That's exactly why we shit on it

[–] ech@lemm.ee 20 points 9 months ago

Nobody said it wasn't deliberate. It's still shitty af.

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[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 65 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (46 children)

Just once I would love to open one of these threads without seeing people shitting... on Linux.

Linux is not even the one doing anything wrong but people gotta rag on whoever recommends it as an alternative. This is getting more annoying than however annoying they say Linux users are.

edit: Just to make clear because some folks aren't getting it, this is not an invitation to argue about how you feel about Linux and Linux users. I. don't. fucking. care. I don't even use Linux. Take it to someone who cares.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 76 points 9 months ago (84 children)
[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

tbf I get it. Sometimes you just want to be mad.

But like, it's Microsoft's fault.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 21 points 9 months ago (18 children)

As is everyone taking every possible opportunity to mention Linux. It's not like we don't know it exists, we don't need constantly reminding that it's an option.

Although it isn't an option for a vast number of reasons, but mostly because corporate IT requires systems that run only on Windows. Therefore the only solution is Windows so the fact another operating system exists is utterly irrelevant and yet somehow you guys constantly keep mentioning it. Then we constantly have to point out that lots and lots of programs don't run on Linux and then you will inhibitively start going on about Wine. It's tiring. I would love it if we could have a conversation about Microsoft without having to pretend that other operating systems are viable alternatives.

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[–] Jerkingass@lemmy.world 57 points 9 months ago (21 children)

Windows Key+D

Press it again to restore all apps to foreground.

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[–] learningduck@programming.dev 55 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Just press windows+d bro.

I forgot that the button exists.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Win+d also redirects to copilot

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 72 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hope that's a joke or else I'm gonna be so mad

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nah, obviously you launch Copilot with Ctrl+C.

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So you're just out here trying to start a riot, eh?

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[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago (5 children)

They're signaling that you don't need a desktop anymore, only chat bot. Your device will be a kiosk where you ask Microsoft for favours.

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[–] Defaced@lemmy.world 51 points 9 months ago (12 children)

Linux exists people, without copilot using your information for training data and if you game, has Valve releasing updates like crazy for proton making it easier and easier to use Linux for gaming. The only thing I use Windows for is GeForce now as the windows and Mac apps are the only way for me to play 1440p 120fps with their service.

Good beginner distros: pop_os, Ubuntu, Linux mint, Nobara or fedora, Garuda, Manjaro, solus, zorin. The possibilities are really endless. Just take your pick, make a bootable USB and try it out.

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[–] Kawi@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'm so glad I switched to linux

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 41 points 9 months ago

Typical capitalist race to the bottom to appease investors with short term decision making

[–] Dr_Satan@lemm.ee 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (11 children)

Linux. You'll be glad you did.

Free. Easy to install. Never gets viruses. Never crashes. Rock solid.

Runs good on old machines. Runs like lightning on new machines.

I've installed it for 3 old ladies (3 separate installs). They like its simplicity and low-bullshit.

I personally use Debian with a Mate desktop.

[–] trailblazer911@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

"Never Crashes", "Runs like Lightning on new machines" Am I doing this wrong? I tried Ubuntu, Zorin OS, Linux Mint- I get crashes and errors which doesn't explain what the error is, instead shows some code lines. Runs like Lightning on new machines- In my 13600K build, Windows 11 feels noticeably faster, and I'm able to use all my onboard stuff like Optical Audio Out, WiFI 6 connects to 5GHz properly, unlike Linuxmint. I think I lack the technical expertise to run linux. I have been building PCs for like 20 years now.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Im so glad i moved away from windows ages ago.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 9 months ago (10 children)

The last 10 years if Windows have been so agressively anti-user that I can't comprehend anyone chooses Windows unless they need it for work.

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[–] Resol@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (14 children)
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[–] Soggytoast@lemm.ee 31 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Windows 11 offers nothing better than Windows 10, but there's a few key things that don't work as good/bugged on win11 for me. Should have not updated I think

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Clippy never really went away, he's just been evolving this whole time into something more and more annoying with each new iteration.

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 26 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I guess they figured out where people clicked a lot and put the button there?

Looking forward to the Google search trends for "disable copilot"

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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Is this just a new Cortana?

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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Win+d, I wasn't even aware there was an icon for it. If it's not the date, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, or VPN, I'm all keys

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[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (4 children)

can this be hidden via registry or group policy?

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[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 21 points 9 months ago (39 children)

so.... where's the hide button?

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