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SEO has made it incredibly hard to find answers without getting spammed by news and blog sites. Places like ask Lemmy help democratize answers through upvotes and downvotes so the quality is higher.

Do you know of any hidden gems for search engines or Q&A sites that contain highly relevant answers without much noise?

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You may not like it, but Bing chat, it will cite its sources so even if it hallucinates something you can fact check

[–] TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree, since the heavy SEO push has come about, Bing chat works the best. SEO has ruined search engines, it’s a little like Taco Bell using sand as a filler.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

As a former taco bell employee, I am compelled to request that you remove any mention of the refried beans secret ingredient

[–] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Taco Bell using sand as a filler.

I'm sorry, what?

[–] TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Taco Bell adds Silica, also known as Silicon Dioxide. Silicon Dioxide is the most abundant mineral found in the Earth's crust. Silica is found most common as sand or quartz.

Silica is used in the production of glass, fiber optics, porcelain, stoneware, and concrete.

Silica is also commonly added in the production of foods where it is used to absorb water. In Taco Bell's case they use Silica to reduce moisture and keep the meat from clumping together.

Silicon an essential trace element commonly found in the form of Silica helps to guard against Alzheimer's disease, Osteoporosis, and Dementia.

Silicon is also needed for proper bone, cartilage, and tissue health. A deficiency of Silicon can lead to weak bones, tendonitis, bone decalcification, and cardiovascular disease.

Foods rich in Silica/Silicon are Dark Green Leafy Vegetables, Fruits, Nuts, Seeds, and Berries.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LMAO.

Bing only works with Edge AFAIK?

I have heard it is like malware to get rid of macOS lol, I actually installed it, but never uninstalled it because I formatted my Mac for an unrelated case.

[–] ch1cken@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You can actually use it on any browser if you just spoof your user agent to edge, there's no technical limitation that requires edge, microsoft just did it to be shitty. There's also a really nice app which integrates a tonne of ai's (bard, chatgpt, bing, claude, etc) under a single app: https://github.com/sunner/ChatALL/

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Damn that app looks awesome. I just use the Bing app on my phone.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh man, this app is perfect, thank you for the recommendation!

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you now I actually wanna try it again.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

You should. Even if you don't find what you were searching for you can just ask it to make an abstract picture of the process and that's usually entertaining.

[–] Blamemeta@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The more charitible solution is they only test it on bing. Certain organizations will save test costs by only testing one browser, and forcing everyone to use that browser.

[–] checkmymixtapeyo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reddit, believe it or not.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Search engine plus Reddit, believe it or not.

FTFY.

[–] Juu_lion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the only reason I still use reddit, hopefully some day there's a better alternative.

[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

In areas where I have expertise, reddit has shown itself to be incredibly uninformed. The stupidest answer usually receives the not upvotes. I would not trust a single answer from that site.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

But only if you're logged in with res, darkmode, Java script enabled, ad blocker turned off, recent credit card info ...

[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Site:somesite.com queries can help.

I started using Kagi a while back. It’s a paid search engine but is pretty solid

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kagi looks interesting, i was hoping someone would move into the market to try to make a real search engine again

[–] LetKCater2U@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is wild! I can’t believe they made us have to pay for information now.

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they always did, with google you paid with your privacy and attention to ads. in the pre-google days you paid your ISP and/or aol

[–] LetKCater2U@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But now we have to pay all 3 ways lol. I love the idea though. I’ve already signed up!

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Read their privacy policy, you’re paying two ways, same as it ever was. Kagi doesn’t have ads, doesn’t log searches, doesn’t sell data, and on its privacy policy page it lists out every cookie it uses, what’s stored in it, and what it’s used for, you can literally check your browser against it.

[–] AdminWorker@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Consumer reports.org

A search engine both indexes the internet then curates "relevance".

  • Mostly if I am looking for info, I'll go to Wikipedia or lemmy.
  • If I am looking for info about a purchase, consumer reports,
  • if I am looking for social media, lemmy.
[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's a paid service, but in the UK, which.co.uk is absolutely priceless

[–] semifour@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

Kagi surfaces the best results for me for sure. Usually the first link is so good I don't even need its "Quick Answer" AI

[–] solidsnake2085@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm using it now!

[–] yourdogsnipples@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Perplexity.ai has largely replaced Google and Bing for me. It searches the Internet (including reddit), asks for clarification if necessary, then summarises it all with sources cited. The free tier currently gives 5x gpt4 copilot searches per rolling 4 hours. Like most ai chat, it's less of a search engine, and more an 'answer' engine.

As for q and a, reddit, though you'll have to filter the funny / misleading comments out. Quora is just weird, I don't like the vibe there.

[–] Promises@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think ChatGPT fits there, sometimes it just gives you some good practice or very general answers that won't be specific for your current setup (being an OS, or ROM or whatever).

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

With Bing at least majority of the time I can get there with some back and forth.

[–] primalanimist@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

ChatGPT is my go to now for any question as long as it's not about current events. 99% of my questions are like "how do I ..."

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

The chatgpt answers don’t cut it for me, these companies all made this fucking problem in the first place and now they want us to buy their tech-hype bullshit to fix it. Fuck them, same thing that caused Reddit to do what it’s done.

[–] SiriusCybernetics@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Startpage.com I am trying (again). I prefer the Google results without the privacy hit.

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I've been using Qwant and am happy with it.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm self hosting searXNG and it's the best search I've used. Will have to give the gpt bots a try from the looks of this thread

[–] KrisND@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I personally use brave search, it has worked very well in the 6ish months I've used it. Not only for privacy but the results are solid and I've noticed improvements from feedback in the community. If it has enough data it does have an AI generated summary as well which I've found to be very useful for precise questions.

[–] eudoxus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I'm using metager and I'm quite satisfied with it. https://metager.org/

It's a meta search engine run by a nonprofit. If you want to know more: https://metager.org/about