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European leaders have called for greater unity and military cooperation across the continent in response to comments from Donald Trump that threatened to undermine the basis of Nato.

Donald Tusk, Poland’s prime minister, said on a visit to Paris on Monday that there was “no alternative” to the EU and the transatlantic alliance before a summit in which he discussed deepening defence relationships with the French president, Emmanuel Macron.

“It is probably here in Paris that the words from The Three Musketeers by Alexandre Dumas resonate most clearly: ‘All for one, and one for all,’” said Tusk, in a thinly veiled riposte to the former US president and frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination.

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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

At what point does this guy become such a liability, that the CIA carries out "Operation Orange Peel"?

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 12 points 1 year ago

Hopefully Secret Service is keeping tabs on this guy and microphoned his hair flap.

[–] isles@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't think the CIA is on his side? His aims seem aligned with theirs.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To a point. The CIA suddenly lost a lot of human assets in 2021. At around the same time, the National Archives had been asking Trump to please kindly return all the classified documents he has at Mar-a-Lago. We don't know for sure that one led to the other, but the CIA has to be thinking about it.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You and I don't know for sure. The CIA knows exactly what was in those documents.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

America is quickly loosing the strong leadership persona it's held for decades due to the utter stupidity of its leaders (both former and current). Biden has been lax on his oversight, but in fairness to him he had a shitshow to contend with in dealing with the fallout from Jan 6.

Come Nov Americans had better figure it out before everything it's worked for goes spinning down the drain.

[–] mellowheat@suppo.fi 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it probably started with George W. Bush and especially the way he reacted to 9/11. The way they've been winding back those mistakes has been milquetoast at best.

Terrorists win.

[–] ngdev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Loosing isn't the right word

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How convenient for countries that consider the USA unfriendly.

Hey didn't that Tucker guy just have an interview with Putin? What now?

[–] sab@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden is fine. It's your fascist problem we're worried about.

Sincerely,
Europe

[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an American it’s equally annoying how people cannot fucking see what a great job Biden has done overall. Land of the Free, Home of the Dumb

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a little much to call them dumb when wages haven't gone up by nearly as much as literally everything else has.

[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As compared to what? The inflationary rates of the rest of the world? Because things cost more everywhere and comparatively the US weathered that better than about anywhere else. Real Wages have also have increased a lot to compensate in comparison as well. US is smoking other countries in this regard. People ARE dumb because they lack the critical thinking skills to actually look what’s going on.

The Inflation rate is lower than most other countries AND real wages have risen much more in America compared to peer countries as well. Each one of them would trade their numbers with the US in a heartbeat.

Feelings aren't facts, turns facts are facts. And the fact is when measuring real numbers Biden has absolutely crushed it.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/sep/01/joe-biden/does-the-us-have-less-inflation-than-other-leading/

https://www.businessinsider.com/americans-got-bigger-raises-than-g7-over-last-few-years-2023-7?op=1

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you really think Americans are comparing their economy to those of other countries?

Don't be silly.

[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn’t that the point I was making?

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No?

You started off by calling Americans "dumb" for not thinking Biden has done a great job. I pointed out that wages have not kept up with inflation so it's not surprising that many aren't feeling the love for Biden.

Then you argued that other countries have it worse, which I argued is irrelevant.

[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I pointed out that wages actually did go up, moreso than any other country on the planet. Then pointed out that inflation has been the lowest of any country as well! And cited it! Yet that is not good enough. No one has had it easier than Americans following the pandemic.

Your feelings are not matching up with reality. Your situation might suck, idk but the overall situation is comparatively better than everywhere else.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one has had it easier than Americans following the pandemic.

Once more, this is entirely irrelevant. People are hurting, they're not making themselves feel better by comparing their economic situation with that of other countries.

I really can't be any clearer than this.

[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humanity is hurting worldwide, there is a major war taking place in two areas of the globe following a global pandemic. Seas are going to be choppy for a bit. But you have it better than everyone else. The situation is literally the best it can be right now.

And make the most of it, you have a tremendous advantage. A historic low unemployment rate, highest wage growth and demand for blue collar workers ever. If you’re not in a great situation, remember you’re a free agent always and the market has never been hotter for you.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve no clue as to why you’ve pivoted to assuming my personal situation when I’ve given precisely no information about it, but it’s patronizing and creepy and you should stop now.

[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well you sound like someone who’s completely out of touch with reality so I figured your must literally be in the most dire of straits, suffering more than the rest of humanity because milk costs a buck more than it did in the 2000’s

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

No, you lost an argument and decided to act like a dick, be better.

We're done here.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It should have been clear 7 years ago that Europe can't rely on US any more. Hoping US will become a rational partner again and dragging their feet on real action is probably equal part inertia and corruption. Hopefully they will wake up sooner than they did with Russia and energy independence.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Republicans have become pawns of Putin. They will never be reliable for anything but obstruction

[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago

You're not wrong; Angela Merkel outright said it about 6 years ago. I can't find a reference right now, but I believe she even clarified that this conclusion had been building even before Trump was in office.

[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Hoping US will become a rational partner again

Unlikely, 40% of our country supports a seditionist authoritarian.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Trump and conservatives, eroding the U.S. global position every day.

Making the country weaker on the global table, while also making it poorer, less capable, and generally less stable.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump is doing a great job!

... At cutting the US out of the world, which won't crash our economy at all.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

He's doing a great job bringing the world together. Against him. What a leader!

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't this exactly what Trump wants?

[–] realitista@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The main reason Trump is saying these things is that it's already abundantly clear that every country in Europe will be hitting their NATO funding target in the next few years anyway. They've all made plans to that effect anyway. So Trump can make it look like he did it, when in reality it had already been decided.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the clear explanation, I wasn't aware.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

Their armies and NATO want more money every single year. They've been crying wolf for decades. Trump is just the newest excuse.